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Vatican comment on paedophiles draws gay groups' anger

 

 

Cardinal Bertone is seen as second only to Pope Benedict

Gay rights activists have criticised a Vatican official who sought to link homosexuality to paedophilia when commenting on child sex abuse scandals.

The UK's Stonewall group said it was astonishing gay people should still be dealing with "such an offensive myth".

Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone had said homosexuality, not celibacy, lay behind the child sex abuse scandals.

The cardinal, the Vatican's foreign minister, was speaking in Chile, where his comments were also condemned.

Cardinal Bertone was attempting to defuse the scandals currently afflicting the Catholic Church, which are largely cases of priests molesting children, mainly boys, the BBC's David Willey reports from Rome.

He added that some "surprising" initiatives regarding the sex abuse scandal would soon be revealed but did not elaborate.

'I have the documents'

Visiting the Chilean capital Santiago on Monday, Cardinal Bertone told a news conference: "Many psychologists, many psychiatrists have demonstrated that there is no relationship between celibacy and paedophilia but many others have demonstrated, I was told recently, that there is a relationship between homosexuality and paedophilia.

"That is true. I have the documents of the psychologists. That is the problem."

Patricio Walker, a Chilean senator who helped draft anti-paedophile laws, said he would like to see what scientific studies the cardinal was referring to because he thought he was wrong.

A Chilean communist MP, Hugo Gutierrez, told AFP news agency: "Celibacy does more damage to a human being than homosexuality, which is a freely made choice.

"I'm shocked by these words from a senior dignitary of the Church."

In Rome, the head of Italian gay rights group Gaylib, Enrico Oliari, said it was "worrying that the foreign minister of a state that occupies the heart of the Italian capital would use arguments that are considered passe even in the Third World".

Aurelio Mancuso, former president of a Italian gay rights association Arcigay, said: "The truth is that Bertone is clumsily trying to shift attention to homosexuality and away from the focus on new crimes against children that emerge every day."

The Pope's spokesman has indicated that Benedict may have a discreet private meeting with victims of clerical sexual abuse in Malta during his visit there this coming weekend.

The Pope should not feel he is under the pressure of the glare of the media if such a meeting takes place, Fr Federico Lombardi said, so that he can listen and communicate with them.

In Malta, 10 men have taken three Catholic priests to court for alleged child abuse in their youth and have asked to meet the Pope. There has been a high incidence of reported cases on the small Mediterranean island, whose inhabitants are mainly Catholic, our Rome correspondent notes.

 

 

 

I read about this in the Metro earlier and though "wow, this is off-topic gold". Anyway, to be fair, the Vatican have tried to distance themselves from Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone based on this, but still...



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You've got to be kidding me. This is an Onion article right? This can't be real. Reminds me of Eddie Murphy's "Raw" where he talked about your girlfriend kissing her gay friend and "gettin that AIDS all over her lips".



Soo... their saying that a lot of their priests are homosexual?

Let's hope Europe can finally shake the Vatican around a bit, give them something to think about before touching little children, lying to drive across religious points and proclaiming that everyone who doesn't agree with them is a worshipper of Satan.



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Doobie_wop said:
Soo... their saying that a lot of their priests are homosexual?

Let's hope Europe can finally shake the Vatican around a bit, give them something to think about before touching little children, lying to drive across religious points and proclaiming that everyone who doesn't agree with them is a worshipper of Satan.

That is never going to happen sadly, they(the church) still has WAY too much power.



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I think gay organizations should laugh at the kind of idiot this guy is instead of criticizing him...he's digging his own grave literally. Nevermind the fact that he's claiming a bullshit research (unsurprising), but now he's trying to say that the causes of paedophilia is homosexuality...does that mean that all the priests that have been accused of it (and a lot of times covered up by the church itself) are now homosexual? It's good to see them admittting it...it would cause less harm for them to blame celibacy...

On the other hand, I'm kind of accustomed to see retarded comments like this comming from the high priests...the archbishop of Spain or something similiar said something like this a couple days ago (EDIT: Found it, Tenerife's Bishop said that "minors encourage sexual abuse from priests")




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KingFate said:
Doobie_wop said:
Soo... their saying that a lot of their priests are homosexual?

Let's hope Europe can finally shake the Vatican around a bit, give them something to think about before touching little children, lying to drive across religious points and proclaiming that everyone who doesn't agree with them is a worshipper of Satan.

That is never going to happen sadly, they(the church) still has WAY too much power.

They have to much power NOW, but with the decrease in their adoption rate I'm hoping that at least before I die I can see them as an insignificant forgotten group of people who rely on sheer stupidity to get their voices heard (like vandalizing a science museum or something). That will probably not happen, but here's hoping that common sense prevails.



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

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I'll say this now, because people always seem to ignore this fact. And I'm quite tired of it.

Catholicism =/= All Christianity



This kind of Vatican BS reminds me why I don't go to church anymore...



 

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dsister44 said:
I'll say this now, because people always seem to ignore this fact. And I'm quite tired of it.

Catholicism =/= All Christianity

They also have problem with the book the faith is based on. I mean it's pretty hard to counter when it calls homosexuality an abomination.



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Doobie_wop said:
KingFate said:
Doobie_wop said:
Soo... their saying that a lot of their priests are homosexual?

Let's hope Europe can finally shake the Vatican around a bit, give them something to think about before touching little children, lying to drive across religious points and proclaiming that everyone who doesn't agree with them is a worshipper of Satan.

That is never going to happen sadly, they(the church) still has WAY too much power.

They have to much power NOW, but with the decrease in their adoption rate I'm hoping that at least before I die I can see them as an insignificant forgotten group of people who rely on sheer stupidity to get their voices heard (like vandalizing a science museum or something). That will probably not happen, but here's hoping that common sense prevails.

lol, yeah. Too bad Chrisitianity is still growing in the world.



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