I hate fetch quests.

Is the story good though? If thats gripping then I'm fine, as that would be enough to keep me moving.

I LOVE Devil Survivor's story & all the different things in it. It had me gripped, I wanted to end each day just to get that e-mail in the morning, the "numbers" you see over peoples heads was really cool. I guess if I say more its spoilers so never mind.

Then a few plot realizations are chilling, and hey I liked not having to "move" too, I didn't mind it at all. I heard you move in First Person mode in SMT strange Journey?

The story hasn't been good or interesting - I'm about 20 hours in. It's been pretty simple so far: rescue mission and find a way out. It sounds similar to DS, but it's not. The plot has mostly been fetch quests. Find x item to get to the next level, go find x so we can get information, find & rescue x members, etc. There's an interesting theme surrounding the dungeons, but the game rarely mentions it. If the game would make a much bigger deal on these dungeon themes, I probably would've been hooked to the story.

I also enjoyed DS's story mainly because of the branching plots. It kept me hooked to the story and caused me to carefully choose my next event.

Yeah, Strange Journey is a first-person dungeon crawler ala Wizardry, Etrian Odyssey, Dark Spire, etc. Everything is in first person including the battles. The battle system/gameplay is a step-down compared to DS. You can't assign stats or skills to yourself, and you don't get a free turn or that much of a reward for exploiting the enemy's weakness. It's surprisingly simple, but things like fusion and pokemon-similarities keep the game interesting. The dungeon designs are pretty good, but there are a couple of parts that are plain annoying.

@darthdevidem01, the reason i hated ff12 so much is for me it was a very gimped offline ff11, i was why play this crap when i can play ff11:online and play it will thousands of ppl. the graphics and story were ok, but the battle system reminded me too much of ff11:online.

kingdom hearts 2 was a huge improvement too me, made me wanting a sequel even more. battle system was very good, graphics were awesome, everything just was well done from start too finish.

since ppl have talked about ff12 a good amount i changed the new topic of discussion to ff12.

that doesn't make sense to me.... I'm sorry, rephrase

When I first heard about how different FFXII was supposed to be (and ended up being) I can honestly say I was a good bit upset. I did not want change (battle system to be exact).

After playing it and I can honestly say I enjoyed it. The battle system might not have been my favorite, but I appreciated the game/battle system for trying to do something different (and honestly succedding). End of the day, I found the story to be the weakest link. It was not bad, but I did not find it as strong as any of the previous FF titles on the playstation family of consoles. (have beaten them all multiple times except for FF8. I hate drawing magic so much I cannot get past disc 2, tried multiple times now)

@thelifatree, i meant since a good amount of ppl in this thread starting talking about ff12, might as well make it the new topic of discussion. sorry i wasnt clear.

@ssenkahdavic, i understand your point of view on ff12. on your take on ff8 it was my all time fav jrpg untill lost odyssey came out. maybe someday i will give ff12 another shot, but not sure when though.

Organization XIII is one of the best Enemy Groups in RPGs!

Xemnas, Xaldin and Saix will rip up anyone! (They're my fav Org 13 Members)