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DirtyP2002 said:
I am glad that this project was canceled. I hate MMOs, I really do. I love Halo on the other hand. So for me to keep on buying every single Halo game, I would have had to play a MMO. Glad that this was not the case.

I hate MMOs as well. But if they could create an MMO that plays similar to Borderlands, I would be a pig in shit.



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Acevil said:
Ensemble gets shut down for still making good projects....but yet Rare still exists....

So true. One of the biggest wastes of money MS has spent in a long time.



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outlawauron said:
Acevil said:
Ensemble gets shut down for still making good projects....but yet Rare still exists....

So true. One of the biggest wastes of money MS has spent in a long time.

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What has Ensemble released? a couple of expansion packs and Halo Wars. They had 6 cancelled projects; they were wasting money like crazy either they had to downsize and go back to making more Age of Empires games, or get shutdown.



hobbit said:
outlawauron said:
Acevil said:
Ensemble gets shut down for still making good projects....but yet Rare still exists....

So true. One of the biggest wastes of money MS has spent in a long time.

Viva Pinata 1.62M

PDZ 1.31M

Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts .69M

Kameo: Elements of Power .52M

Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise .37M

Conker: Live and Reloaded .69M

Plus some XBLA stuff

 

What has Ensemble released? a couple of expansion packs and Halo Wars. They had 6 cancelled projects; they were wasting money like crazy either they had to downsize and go back to making more Age of Empires games, or get shutdown.

None of that is very good. (and definitely not worth the $375 million paid for them + budgets of each game)

I'm not even a big fan of Ensemble, just saying that Rare has fallen hard and that the money spent wasn't worth it.



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there were other problems... things that Bungie would not allow to go on... so there is more to the story then he will tell



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hahahhahahaha halo mmo competing with WOW HAHAHA give me break , mmo and 360 dont work together first of all and the halo universe doesnt have one pixel on the massiveness that is wow and its community



outlawauron said:
hobbit said:
outlawauron said:
Acevil said:
Ensemble gets shut down for still making good projects....but yet Rare still exists....

So true. One of the biggest wastes of money MS has spent in a long time.

Viva Pinata 1.62M

PDZ 1.31M

Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts .69M

Kameo: Elements of Power .52M

Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise .37M

Conker: Live and Reloaded .69M

Plus some XBLA stuff

 

What has Ensemble released? a couple of expansion packs and Halo Wars. They had 6 cancelled projects; they were wasting money like crazy either they had to downsize and go back to making more Age of Empires games, or get shutdown.

None of that is very good. (and definitely not worth the $375 million paid for them + budgets of each game)

I'm not even a big fan of Ensemble, just saying that Rare has fallen hard and that the money spent wasn't worth it.


all those games were pretty good, and if they're turning a profit then they're worth it. They also have been working on tech and uprgrades for xbox. Ensemble wasn't working on anything when they were shutdown, they clearly were not worth keeping open.

The $375 million you speak of was an investment in the xbox brand. Considering the brand is profitable and worth billions today, i would say thats pretty good ROI.



hobbit said:
outlawauron said:
hobbit said:
outlawauron said:
Acevil said:
Ensemble gets shut down for still making good projects....but yet Rare still exists....

So true. One of the biggest wastes of money MS has spent in a long time.

Viva Pinata 1.62M

PDZ 1.31M

Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts .69M

Kameo: Elements of Power .52M

Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise .37M

Conker: Live and Reloaded .69M

Plus some XBLA stuff

 

What has Ensemble released? a couple of expansion packs and Halo Wars. They had 6 cancelled projects; they were wasting money like crazy either they had to downsize and go back to making more Age of Empires games, or get shutdown.

None of that is very good. (and definitely not worth the $375 million paid for them + budgets of each game)

I'm not even a big fan of Ensemble, just saying that Rare has fallen hard and that the money spent wasn't worth it.

all those games were pretty good, and if they're turning a profit then they're worth it. They also have been working on tech and uprgrades for xbox. Ensemble wasn't working on anything when they were shutdown, they clearly were not worth keeping open.

The $375 million you speak of was an investment in the xbox brand. Considering the brand is profitable and worth billions today, i would say thats pretty good ROI.

The problems with Ensemble stem from poor management. Overspending and not reaching deadlines so problems with those in charge. Just shutting down the studio isn't always the best solution.



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no fan of halo or 360. but i do hate to see this. this could have been the one way master cheif could have lived on after bungie! i know halo gamers can agree with this. they should make a god of war mmo to keep kratos alive. but as mutch as i hate this franchise. this is a sad sad day for all fps and halo fans. i hope they change there mind.



outlawauron said:
hobbit said:
outlawauron said:
hobbit said:
outlawauron said:
Acevil said:
Ensemble gets shut down for still making good projects....but yet Rare still exists....

So true. One of the biggest wastes of money MS has spent in a long time.

Viva Pinata 1.62M

PDZ 1.31M

Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts .69M

Kameo: Elements of Power .52M

Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise .37M

Conker: Live and Reloaded .69M

Plus some XBLA stuff

 

What has Ensemble released? a couple of expansion packs and Halo Wars. They had 6 cancelled projects; they were wasting money like crazy either they had to downsize and go back to making more Age of Empires games, or get shutdown.

None of that is very good. (and definitely not worth the $375 million paid for them + budgets of each game)

I'm not even a big fan of Ensemble, just saying that Rare has fallen hard and that the money spent wasn't worth it.

all those games were pretty good, and if they're turning a profit then they're worth it. They also have been working on tech and uprgrades for xbox. Ensemble wasn't working on anything when they were shutdown, they clearly were not worth keeping open.

The $375 million you speak of was an investment in the xbox brand. Considering the brand is profitable and worth billions today, i would say thats pretty good ROI.

The problems with Ensemble stem from poor management. Overspending and not reaching deadlines so problems with those in charge. Just shutting down the studio isn't always the best solution.

In this case it was. Ensemble had no games in the pipeline, putting in new management and laying off 10% of the work force wouldn't change that. You have to remember that the success of halo wars was uncertain and apparently nobody in charge had planed another AgeofEmpires. They could have kept them open another 6 months to see if a halo wars 2 viable but that would have been a waste of millions of dollars.