I have a 360 had one for 3 yrs and i trade in alot of games. I might still get the game I just not a fan of a short SP thats all and i know this thread would not please everone. But i know iam not the only one that feel this way about the short SP. As for multiplayer I do like it on some games not all. Play WOW for over 4 yrs and quit. I just think the trend here is getting old Short SP and all about MP. BTW my live ID is Kainxxx2000

... No you didn't, unless you can provide a picture as proof, y'know, taken from your camera or something?

If you add up the cutscene times (Found in the viewer) you'll see there's a good hour and half of cutscenes, which would mean aside from them you completed the game in just 3 hours gametime, correct? And if you went through the game without the cutscenes first time, you're just dumb.

But my opinion stands, unless you can give us some form of proof, I'm putting you as lying. My first playthrough was 10 hours and I just got straight to the point, my second was around 12-13 and that was collecting the treasures...

I have to agree Boutros on this one.

Oh right, they have guns still, whoopedy fuckidy doo. They killed the character of Sam Fisher, Grim is now some bad ass instead of the witty and funny computer geek.

Big point: KILLING WAS MEANT TO BE A LAST RESORT.

Splinter Cell 1-3 had a huge emphasis on that you were supposed to avoid, distract, knock out, and then finally kill if you had to. There was a whole theme going on with, Lambert saying in his bad ass voice, "Sam you have the Fifth Freedom". There were entire levels where you couldn't kill anyone. Killing was supposed to be an absolute last resort, and doing so was considered a failure in some ways.

Chaos Theory emphasized this by making the game darker, and not glorifying death at all. It wasn't supposed to be bad ass. It was, in some ways, sorta depressing to hear terrorists being interrogated, their only choices being either a quick death, or a painful death, no escape.

Now they want to go the Bourne route. There's no mention of the Fifth Freedom in Double Agent, and now that Sam is rogue, there'll be no mention still. They butchered the Tom Clancy feeling for the Bourne feeling. It just seems like a normal summer thriller rather than a techno thriller.

Most people will prolly play this game in around 7-8 hours+ depending on which difficulty you choose to start. But whats the big deal? If they can tell a good story+ great gameplay in that time why would you want it to be 20 hours?

I am not gonna compare it with other games just for the heck of it! But I rather wish splintercell had some other problems then atleast the QQ wouldn't be this bad

5 hours if true, is pretty lame.

I like Heavenly Sword, but it's length means that I wouldn't pay more then 30 euro for it. Likewise, I wouldn't spend more then 30 euro on MW2 if it didn't have such great mutliplayer.

So if I was a gamer that only liked singleplayer experiences, this would annoy me. But as I hear the game has co-op and multiplayer a 5 hour campaign isn't such a big deal for me.

Still, I don't like the fact that many modern games are offering such short SP components in favour of padding the game with MP. It ignores and somewhat ostracises the gamers who love only one thing, a great SP experience.

there is a co-op campaign too..... that has 2 add at least another 4-5 hours onto it

how would you know you havnt played it??Clutching at straws!!!i have completed it 3 times already and the amount of things i did differently each time was amazing.

I am more into single player as well. I tell you what..since I still plan on getting the game if you like I will let you know roughly how long it took me too finish single and co-op campaign's both. I do not speed run either btw.

Yawn. You're just the typical guy who wants Chaos Theory 2 and can't get over the fact that no matter how good Chaos Theory was, it didn't sell well. They haven't shown Grim significantly in previews, so I don't know how you're sitting here telling me how she is in this game. Also, Sam Fisher is the same character, he's just super pissed because his daughter's dead and he's playing by his own rules now.

Killing meant to be a last resort? Sorry, but there's some parts of those games where you have no choice but to kill someone, like the final mission in the original where you have to snipe someone in the head through a window. The only time you were ever discouraged from killing was by the score at the end of levels on Chaos Theory or missions where all the enemies are civilians. Hell, they even gave you a knife to use in Chaos Theory as well.

Gotta love how they tweak a few things and all of a sudden it isn't Splinter Cell anymore, and I'm also a little tired of everything considered "actiony" getting compared to Bourne films, like they evented the action genre.