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d21lewis on 08 April 2010
highwaystar101 said:
nightsurge said:
Lol no kidding right? So much for Swine Flu and the millions of dollars our government wasted on buying vaccines for it. What was the death toll in the US? No higher than the death toll for standard Flu each year?

I didn't get a flu shot of any kind and I never have. I was sick with flu like symptoms for 2 days and then fine again.

*Sigh* Do you understand what a pandemic is? Do you understand how Swine flu differs from regular seasonal flu?

This video explains the situation better than I could...

I just shat my pants.  I'll shut up now.

*edit*  I posted after watching about 2 minutes of that video.  I just finished watching the whole thing.  Very scary and very informative stuff.  I guess, in this one situation, the media was right and I was wrong.  It is funny/sad how things of such a serious nature fall out of the attention of the media so quickly, though.



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mrstickball on 08 April 2010

Y2K10

Believe!



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

highwaystar101 on 08 April 2010
d21lewis said:
highwaystar101 said:
nightsurge said:
Lol no kidding right? So much for Swine Flu and the millions of dollars our government wasted on buying vaccines for it. What was the death toll in the US? No higher than the death toll for standard Flu each year?

I didn't get a flu shot of any kind and I never have. I was sick with flu like symptoms for 2 days and then fine again.

*Sigh* Do you understand what a pandemic is? Do you understand how Swine flu differs from regular seasonal flu?

This video explains the situation better than I could...

<snip>

I just shat my pants.  I'll shut up now.

It's Thunderf00t... After Ray William Johnson he is probably my favorite Youtuber. He's good at making people shit their pants, ask Venomfangx lol.



Rainbird on 08 April 2010
highwaystar101 said:
nightsurge said:
Lol no kidding right? So much for Swine Flu and the millions of dollars our government wasted on buying vaccines for it. What was the death toll in the US? No higher than the death toll for standard Flu each year?

I didn't get a flu shot of any kind and I never have. I was sick with flu like symptoms for 2 days and then fine again.

*Sigh* Do you understand what a pandemic is? Do you understand how Swine flu differs from regular seasonal flu?

This video explains the situation better than I could...

Trust me, at the swine flu media peak I was living with three nurses, my girlfriend was (still is) a medical student whose social group was formed pretty much solely of people in/hoping to work in the medical industry... Each and every one of them was very concerned about swine flu.

I once thought it was media hype too, My old house mates (the nurses) quickly showed me I was wrong when I said it was "media hype" one night.

Good one, I feel enlightened



d21lewis on 08 April 2010

Consider me a Thunderf00t subscriber. My pants can always use a good shitting.

*goes to youtube to subscribe*



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Rath on 08 April 2010
nightsurge said:
Rath said:
nightsurge said:
Lol no kidding right? So much for Swine Flu and the millions of dollars our government wasted on buying vaccines for it. What was the death toll in the US? No higher than the death toll for standard Flu each year?

I didn't get a flu shot of any kind and I never have. I was sick with flu like symptoms for 2 days and then fine again.

I hate how people look back on potential catastrophes.

If the swine flu had mutated into a very dangerous virus (which was and still is possible) then everyone would be accusing the government and media of not doing enough, however because it hasn't it's been overblown and money wasted. Not every potential disaster is going to turn out, be prepared for them all just so you can catch the ones that do.

But it wasn't even a real potential disaster.  The Swine Flu even happened before and it posed no threat then.  They make flu shots based on a guess of existing flu, so had the flu mutated it would have still been a major, major waste since the current vaccine would not help.  Even from the beginning though, every Swine Flu victim experienced normal flu like symptoms and got over them.  The only people that died were ones with other health complications or weaker immune systems (such as old people, very young kids, pregnant women) or lived in a highly poverty ridden area like Mexico.

It was the government and the media that blew up this small normal mutation of existing flu with no harsher side effects than standard flu and purposely tried to make a panic out of it in order for us to get shots.

You are wrong on oh so many counts.

1) Last pandemic of swine flu was the spanish flu. 50-100 Million were killed by that one. Yeah, it posed no threat.

2) Like the Spanish flu this flu was notable for not only infecting the weak, it also infected those with strong immune systems.

3) If a flu mutates so that it becomes more dangerous it does not neccesarily make the vaccine useless.

4) It was a fucking pandemic, those things only occur about once in every 30 years. The World Health Organisation doesn't yell pandemic just to get people to take shots.

 

@highway. Didn't know thunderfoot had a swine flu video. o.O

 

The swine flu had the potential to be a huge disaster, it still does actually. All it takes is a little bit of mutation and people will be popping their clogs all over the world.



Mr Khan on 08 April 2010
mrstickball said:
Y2K10

Believe!

We already had that though. Countless PS3's suffered in the conflagration.

 

People couldn't play Heavy Rain, man!



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

highwaystar101 on 08 April 2010
Rath said:
nightsurge said:
Rath said:

I hate how people look back on potential catastrophes.

If the swine flu had mutated into a very dangerous virus (which was and still is possible) then everyone would be accusing the government and media of not doing enough, however because it hasn't it's been overblown and money wasted. Not every potential disaster is going to turn out, be prepared for them all just so you can catch the ones that do.

But it wasn't even a real potential disaster.  The Swine Flu even happened before and it posed no threat then.  They make flu shots based on a guess of existing flu, so had the flu mutated it would have still been a major, major waste since the current vaccine would not help.  Even from the beginning though, every Swine Flu victim experienced normal flu like symptoms and got over them.  The only people that died were ones with other health complications or weaker immune systems (such as old people, very young kids, pregnant women) or lived in a highly poverty ridden area like Mexico.

It was the government and the media that blew up this small normal mutation of existing flu with no harsher side effects than standard flu and purposely tried to make a panic out of it in order for us to get shots.

You are wrong on oh so many counts.

1) Last pandemic of swine flu was the spanish flu. 50-100 Million were killed by that one. Yeah, it posed no threat.

2) Like the Spanish flu this flu was notable for not only infecting the weak, it also infected those with strong immune systems.

3) If a flu mutates so that it becomes more dangerous it does not neccesarily make the vaccine useless.

4) It was a fucking pandemic, those things only occur about once in every 30 years. The World Health Organisation doesn't yell pandemic just to get people to take shots.

 

@highway. Didn't know thunderfoot had a swine flu video. o.O

 

The swine flu had the potential to be a huge disaster, it still does actually. All it takes is a little bit of mutation and people will be popping their clogs all over the world.

Yeah, Thunderf00t actually has some amazing videos when he's not bashing creationists.



nightsurge on 08 April 2010
Rath said:
nightsurge said:
Rath said:
nightsurge said:
Lol no kidding right? So much for Swine Flu and the millions of dollars our government wasted on buying vaccines for it. What was the death toll in the US? No higher than the death toll for standard Flu each year?

I didn't get a flu shot of any kind and I never have. I was sick with flu like symptoms for 2 days and then fine again.

I hate how people look back on potential catastrophes.

If the swine flu had mutated into a very dangerous virus (which was and still is possible) then everyone would be accusing the government and media of not doing enough, however because it hasn't it's been overblown and money wasted. Not every potential disaster is going to turn out, be prepared for them all just so you can catch the ones that do.

But it wasn't even a real potential disaster.  The Swine Flu even happened before and it posed no threat then.  They make flu shots based on a guess of existing flu, so had the flu mutated it would have still been a major, major waste since the current vaccine would not help.  Even from the beginning though, every Swine Flu victim experienced normal flu like symptoms and got over them.  The only people that died were ones with other health complications or weaker immune systems (such as old people, very young kids, pregnant women) or lived in a highly poverty ridden area like Mexico.

It was the government and the media that blew up this small normal mutation of existing flu with no harsher side effects than standard flu and purposely tried to make a panic out of it in order for us to get shots.

You are wrong on oh so many counts.

1) Last pandemic of swine flu was the spanish flu. 50-100 Million were killed by that one. Yeah, it posed no threat.

And that was in a time when medicine was no where near as advanced and human immune systems were much weaker.

2) Like the Spanish flu this flu was notable for not only infecting the weak, it also infected those with strong immune systems.

Yet when Swine Flu infected anyone of normal/strong immune system, it acted just the same as the normal flu.  This is fact.

3) If a flu mutates so that it becomes more dangerous it does not neccesarily make the vaccine useless.

This is true, but you never really know either way what the old vaccine would do.  It may have adverse affects rather than good ones.

4) It was a fucking pandemic, those things only occur about once in every 30 years. The World Health Organisation doesn't yell pandemic just to get people to take shots.

It wasn't a pandemic though.  That's why it was blown way out of proportion.  I understand how pandemics can be dangerous, but in order for it to be a pandemic, doesn't it have to be worse than the normal seasonal flu death rate by a large extent?  The Swine Flu wasn't.  And yes, the World Health Organization as well as governments in general love to yell pandemic to have people spend more money.  Sad part is it works.

 

@highway. Didn't know thunderfoot had a swine flu video. o.O

 

The swine flu had the potential to be a huge disaster, it still does actually. All it takes is a little bit of mutation and people will be popping their clogs all over the world.

The Swine Flu itself occured back in the 1980's I believe (may have been 70's) to the same government and media enduced panic.  It had a very low death rate, and the result of the vaccine was that many people were permanently damaged/handicapped by adverse affects or even killed by the vaccine.  As many as 30,000 people.



Rath on 08 April 2010

nightsurge. It was a pandemic (look up the definition), the '76 vaccine didn't kill a huge number of people and our immune systems are getting weaker over time (due to increased sterilisation).