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joeorc said:

yes I know how to read:

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"It seems that the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement Cyber Crimes Center, known as C3, has replaced its '$8,000 Tableau/Dell server combination' with more efficient and much cheaper $300 PS3s. Each PS3 is capable of 4 million passwords per second, and C3 currently has 20 PS3s with plans to buy 40 more. Naturally this is only being used to break encryption on computers seized with a warrant and suspected of harboring child pornography."

The report notes that a six-digit password has nearly 282 trillion possible permutations, and the networked PS3 can attempt 4 million guesses per second.

it's single buddy they are talking about Each PS3.

I'm under the impression that each PS3 only has an output when it's networked like that, otherwise it's significantly less. SInce you know, the more cores you have the effect compounds so 4 would have a lot less ability than 8, not just half the ability.

Also just some rough math for you. Cracking 282 trillion codes, at 4 million a second will take 136 years give or take a few. This is also at only about 6 digit codes. Are you trying to tell me that the PSN encryption is solely 6 digits at the other end where you can't circumvent it? It'd have to be like 3 or 4 for a single PS3 to actually be able to do anything before the PS3 goes out of production.



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mirgro said:
joeorc said:
 

yes I know how to read:

slashdot-

"It seems that the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement Cyber Crimes Center, known as C3, has replaced its '$8,000 Tableau/Dell server combination' with more efficient and much cheaper $300 PS3s. Each PS3 is capable of 4 million passwords per second, and C3 currently has 20 PS3s with plans to buy 40 more. Naturally this is only being used to break encryption on computers seized with a warrant and suspected of harboring child pornography."

The report notes that a six-digit password has nearly 282 trillion possible permutations, and the networked PS3 can attempt 4 million guesses per second.

it's single buddy they are talking about Each PS3.

I'm under the impression that each PS3 only has an output when it's networked like that, otherwise it's significantly less. SInce you know, the more cores you have the effect compounds so 4 would have a lot less ability than 8, not just half the ability.

Also just some rough math for you. Cracking 282 trillion codes, at 4 million a second will take 136 years give or take a few. This is also at only about 6 digit codes. Are you trying to tell me that the PSN encryption is solely 6 digits at the other end where you can't circumvent it? It'd have to be like 3 or 4 for a single PS3 to actually be able to do anything before the PS3 goes out of production.

well your impression is wrong.

example:

Breese was looking for a way to optimize processing to make MD5 calculations go very quickly, he says. MD5 (Message-Digest algorithm 5) is one of the most used cryptographic hash functions. The PS3 managed to conduct over 1.4 billion MD5 calculations a second, he says.

that's FROM just a single PS3!

this is not going to go anywhere, because no matter what you are going to think that Linux did not pose a threat , so I am going to agree to disagree and let this thread go.

 



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I hate Geohot and all hackers your stealing drives up the prices for the rest of us which only encourages more people to steal. Therefore, I wish technology had a version of the ink blots used for clothes only these are made by Bayer and spread aids to hackers. Dont say its not possible as Bayer already gave Aids to children in Europe so this is definitely possible.



nightsurge said:
I have a feeling Sony just shot themselves in the foot with this one....

Just a feeling? Considering also the news that the update is buggy too? They blew their stinky foot off!!!   



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mirgro said:
joeorc said:
 

yes I know how to read:

slashdot-

"It seems that the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement Cyber Crimes Center, known as C3, has replaced its '$8,000 Tableau/Dell server combination' with more efficient and much cheaper $300 PS3s. Each PS3 is capable of 4 million passwords per second, and C3 currently has 20 PS3s with plans to buy 40 more. Naturally this is only being used to break encryption on computers seized with a warrant and suspected of harboring child pornography."

The report notes that a six-digit password has nearly 282 trillion possible permutations, and the networked PS3 can attempt 4 million guesses per second.

it's single buddy they are talking about Each PS3.

I'm under the impression that each PS3 only has an output when it's networked like that, otherwise it's significantly less. SInce you know, the more cores you have the effect compounds so 4 would have a lot less ability than 8, not just half the ability.

Also just some rough math for you. Cracking 282 trillion codes, at 4 million a second will take 136 years give or take a few. This is also at only about 6 digit codes. Are you trying to tell me that the PSN encryption is solely 6 digits at the other end where you can't circumvent it? It'd have to be like 3 or 4 for a single PS3 to actually be able to do anything before the PS3 goes out of production.

Well your rough math is bad.  282 trillion codes would only take one PS3 2.2 years to get through.  But a cluster of about 20 woudd only take 41 days.   And when they add the other 40, it will take a little under 14 days. 

For reference, At 4 million passwords a second a PS3 could do 345.6 billion passwords a day. 



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Aww man. Not this again. -_-



cmeese47 said:
I hate Geohot and all hackers your stealing drives up the prices for the rest of us which only encourages more people to steal. 

I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous.  The price of one new video game, from the time I was a small child to today, has inflated at a rate so far below the average rate of inflation that it is staggering.  The price of consoles has risen slightly faster, but still nowhere near the sort of inflation seen over that 20 year period over the rest of the market.  There is not one shred of evidence to support the assertion that piracy has caused a spike in video game prices.



Oh boo hoo. Cough up the money and pay for it.



spenderzz said:
Vetteman94 said:

If he was hacking for hacking sake,  then why did he distribute it?  He knew what would happen when he did,  he just couldnt say so for fear of legal actions.  And he created this custom firmware just so his previous hack would still work.   He knew what he was doing, he was opening up the floodgates for piracy on the PS3, Please Stop protecting that douchebag.  

 

I don't support hacking or pirating games, and even if piracy was fully possible on PS3 I wouldn't take part in it, but your entire outlook is beyond me.

Sony is a corporation that exists for no other reason than to maximize their profit at your expense.  Geohot is a guy who spent his free time making it possible for you to get free stuff.  I agree that one of these two parties is a douchebag, but it is most assuredly not geohot.


Lol r u for real? "Free stuff?" I have news for you.... this "free stuff" that youre talking about cost money to make that needs to be made back... this guy is pretending to be robin hood and give to the so called poor... Get a job.... get money... buy a game... its that simple.



Okay hold on.. I thought he was going to be done by now?

Geohot is leaving Sony no choice.. he was given an inch with OtherOS (like all of us) and now he took a mile.. now ALL PS3 owners (non-slim) have to deal with losing a (possibly) important feature..

Don't blame Sony.. Blame this guy.



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