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Pharaoh on 01 April 2010
averyblund said:
Pharaoh said:
It's because most of the wii's hardware numbers are not from gamers like us. It is people like my mom and grandma who both have a wii, that make it seem like the good titles don't sell well.

If you take away all the older people(i mean the people who bought the wii for games like wii fit, i.e. my mom and grandma). Then the hardware numbers would be lower or comparable to the 360 and ps3. If you take that number as the installed userbase, then the games performed reasonably well.

We can't except people like my mom to play silent hill, madworld, fire emblem: radiant dawn...etc. I was like you earlier this generation, getting pissed off that stupid casual games sold INSANELY well, and good core titles did not, until I realized the wii userbase is splintered right down the middle, if not more so in favor of the casual population.

All I am saying is realize that you really have two completely different user bases in the wii base.

Agreed in general. But I don't think that addresses my question. Why the difference is regions? I mean it's not like American's and Japan aren't dominated by casual titles as well. It just that they seem to be able to at least post somewhat acceptable numbers for some of the non-casual titles too.

I would say that the Others regions probably has an even higher percentage of casual users than gamers like us.  Its the only reason.



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Boggern on 01 April 2010

There are also a very high percentage of the core Wii players in EU that pirate their games (this is unfortunate but true).



jarrod on 01 April 2010

Rising Star's talked about European retailers reluctance to carry "core" oriented Wii games for years now. I think it's become problem on that end, people won't buy what they can't buy.



averyblund on 01 April 2010
jarrod said:
Rising Star's talked about European retailers reluctance to carry "core" oriented Wii games for years now. I think it's become problem on that end, people won't buy what they can't buy.

I have heard that, and am curious if this is a pan-european phenomena or just in certain areas? If it is a widespread problem it would certainly be a big contributor. Though it does bring in the  "chicken-or-the-egg" question of why those retailers would choose to not stock titles that might sell better. Clearly casual titles are not suffering in distribution.



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jarrod on 01 April 2010
averyblund said:
jarrod said:
Rising Star's talked about European retailers reluctance to carry "core" oriented Wii games for years now. I think it's become problem on that end, people won't buy what they can't buy.

I have heard that, and am curious if this is a pan-european phenomena or just in certain areas? If it is a widespread problem it would certainly be a big contributor. Though it does bring in the  "chicken-or-the-egg" question of why those retailers would choose to not stock titles that might sell better. Clearly casual titles are not suffering in distribution.

I think there's issues of scale there though... most casual games fail too really.  I'm not sure how the situation is in Europe, but in America late last year several large retailers (Target, Best Buy, etc) actually told distributors not to bring them more casual or shovelware titles for Wii, that they won't stock them...



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bazmeistergen on 01 April 2010

There really is an advertising issue over here. It is odd, but at least I'm getting games I like.



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radishhead on 01 April 2010

In the UK, adverts for games like Just Dance seem to be the only ones around.



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tuoyo on 01 April 2010
radishhead said:
In the UK, adverts for games like Just Dance seem to be the only ones around.

Actually I have seen tons of Red Steel adverts in the UK. And I hardly even watch adverts thanks to Sky +. So if the game hasn't sold well in UK it certainly isn't down to lack of TV advertising.

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NightDragon83 on 01 April 2010
famousringo said:
I think what needs to change is that people need to accept that the market isn't going to buy a game just because we might like them to buy it. Let it go, and accept that you only get to vote with your own dollars, you can't vote with somebody else's.

Try telling that to Democrats, lol!



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You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

Reasonable on 01 April 2010

All I can say is that everyone I know bought a Wii in Europe as the family console, for fun with their younger kids (and I'm in that bracket, too) and that they never, ever buy any mature games.

Personally, I suspect that beyond the hardcore Nintendo fans, who it must be understood only make up a fraction of the Wii install base, the majority of the demographic owning the Wii has zero interest in such titles as you describe.

They want more Wii Sports, Resort, party games, etc. and hence the sales of Dance and the like.

I know a lot of Wii owners who are hardcore struggle to accept this, but the reality (so far as I can see) is the larger install base just isn't interested in those types of experiences on the Wii (for sure in Others) and as a result you're only going to see fair to occasionally decent performance for such titles - and I doubt any hardcore mature title will get near the sales of the fun family games on the Wii or their counterparts on PS3/360.



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