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Nintendo consoles have the smallest "used" section in the stores that I went to (they have the smallest "new" section, too). I guess people who buy Nintendo games tend to keep them so there are fewer used game sales. You have to buy the games new.

--the key words in the above statement is "I GUESS".



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d21lewis said:
Nintendo consoles have the smallest "used" section in the stores that I went to (they have the smallest "new" section, too). I guess people who buy Nintendo games tend to keep them so there are fewer used game sales. You have to buy the games new.

--the key words in the above statement is "I GUESS".

And this is important, since while Nintendo is big on piracy, they don't seem to have as much of a problem with used game sales as other developers seem to be. This could be that they found the best solution is to make games people want to keep.



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leo-j said:
BoneArk said:
It's funny how Nintendo changed the industry. 5 years ago when I went to Gamestop, it use to be nothing but teen boys and young men buying games. Now that the Wii is here, I see kids, teen girls and parents buying games every time I go to Gamestop.

you must have been living under a rock, or just incredibly unlucky because kids and teen girls have always been buying video games.. ever since playstation. When gaming went from being a NERD thing, to a normal hobby.

Eh... not quite.  PS1 did hit a more "mainstream" audience in the US and Japan than the previous gen, but it was still very comparable to Famicom/NES in the 80s (which had a deceptively wide range in age/sex for it's audience) or the Game Boy (who's prime audience was a mix of schoolyard children and traveling businessmen).  PS2 swung things backwards somewhat again, especially in Japan where a lot of girls and women just gave up gaming entirely after their cute curvy PSones were succeeded by the black, boxy, hardcore, hi-tech PS2.

I think the only region where PlayStation really made gains in mainstream acceptance of gaming (past what Nintendo had achieved earlier with NES or Game Boy) was probably Europe.  And even there, Nintendo's grown and diversified the market substantially this gen anyway.



Hm... this feels like it should be surprising... considering Wii's are cheaper... despite their huge sales and that Nintendo games never drop in price, I'd think the used versions of Nintendo games would be flying off the shelves.

Then again maybe few people trade in their Nintendo games.



Kasz216 said:
Hm... this feels like it should be surprising... considering Wii's are cheaper... despite their huge sales and that Nintendo games never drop in price, I'd think the used versions of Nintendo games would be flying off the shelves.

Then again maybe few people trade in their Nintendo games.

What would the Wii's price have to do with whether people buy games new or used?



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

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RolStoppable said:

leo-j said:

yes, but saying "girls and kids didn't buy video games before wii" makes no sense, and my comment was meant to say "people who bought video games before playstation, were labeled as nerds, and social rejects" Which was true, games were always meant for kids until playstation, which again is true.

Wrong and wrong. That's what happens when gaming history is rewritten by the winners. The result of all those false revisions is that even industry people started to believe in them and therefore the only way the Wii success could be explained was the casual fallacy.

It's funny when I see people who claim that PlayStation did heavily attract a lot of adult gamers. What's is more funny is great majority of those who claim that are very young people, who were like what? 7-9 year old when they got their first PlayStation? I mean, of course there should be some adult gamers who were playing on PlayStation, you know, those who start playing on NES and got older.



mai said:
RolStoppable said:

leo-j said:

yes, but saying "girls and kids didn't buy video games before wii" makes no sense, and my comment was meant to say "people who bought video games before playstation, were labeled as nerds, and social rejects" Which was true, games were always meant for kids until playstation, which again is true.

Wrong and wrong. That's what happens when gaming history is rewritten by the winners. The result of all those false revisions is that even industry people started to believe in them and therefore the only way the Wii success could be explained was the casual fallacy.

It's funny when I see people who claim that PlayStation did heavily attract a lot of adult gamers. What's is more funny is great majority of those who claim that are very young people, who were like what? 7-9 year old when they got their first PlayStation? I mean, of course there should be some adult gamers who were playing on PlayStation, you know, those who start playing on NES and got older.

Yeah... it's goes largely unsaid, but PlayStation's "growth" is attributable mostly to cannibalizing pre-established markets.  The "teen" demographic they supposedly created had grown up with a 2600 or Famicom or Genesis or some other system, and even their sizable European market was made up of mainly converts from the hugely fractured and diverse computer games market (Amiga, Commodore, Speccy, MSX, Amstrad, Atari, BBC micro, etc) plus the tiny but growing console market (Nintendo & Sega).  PlayStation didn't bring in that many legitimate "new" gamers, if anything even during it's prime years Nintendo was doing appreciably more of that (with kids and Pokemon).



LordTheNightKnight said:
Kasz216 said:
Hm... this feels like it should be surprising... considering Wii's are cheaper... despite their huge sales and that Nintendo games never drop in price, I'd think the used versions of Nintendo games would be flying off the shelves.

Then again maybe few people trade in their Nintendo games.

What would the Wii's price have to do with whether people buy games new or used?

50 bucks is a lot for a new game.  I would expect them to sell more Used copies of a game that's $50 new 6 months later then a wii game that's $30 new 6th months later.

I've always thought that Nintendo sales were higher outside of gamestops because of this.



Kasz216 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Kasz216 said:
Hm... this feels like it should be surprising... considering Wii's are cheaper... despite their huge sales and that Nintendo games never drop in price, I'd think the used versions of Nintendo games would be flying off the shelves.

Then again maybe few people trade in their Nintendo games.

What would the Wii's price have to do with whether people buy games new or used?

50 bucks is a lot for a new game.  I would expect them to sell more Used copies of a game that's $50 new 6 months later then a wii game that's $30 new 6th months later.

I've always thought that Nintendo sales were higher outside of gamestops because of this.

You wrote "Wii's are cheaper", not "Wii games are cheaper". But even then, retail price does not relate to resale price. Any look at the variety of prices for games that sold at the same price should tell you that.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

LordTheNightKnight said:
Kasz216 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Kasz216 said:
Hm... this feels like it should be surprising... considering Wii's are cheaper... despite their huge sales and that Nintendo games never drop in price, I'd think the used versions of Nintendo games would be flying off the shelves.

Then again maybe few people trade in their Nintendo games.

What would the Wii's price have to do with whether people buy games new or used?

50 bucks is a lot for a new game.  I would expect them to sell more Used copies of a game that's $50 new 6 months later then a wii game that's $30 new 6th months later.

I've always thought that Nintendo sales were higher outside of gamestops because of this.

You wrote "Wii's are cheaper", not "Wii games are cheaper". But even then, retail price does not relate to resale price. Any look at the variety of prices for games that sold at the same price should tell you that.

Well that's kinda my dual point.

Wii's are cheaper hence you need to sell more of them for more revnue.

And Nintendo games i'd expect to be caniblized by used sales more then other games.  Including other Wii games that drop in price.

Like I said, just what I thought.  Doesn't actually mean I was right.