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selnor on 30 March 2010

Over the last few months there has been a number of announcements that has got me thinking.

M$ have brought in the USB device connection. Along with this is a more defined robust data transfer system to transfer all info you have for games, saves etc on your HDD. We know also Natal will release likely in Novemeber.

This brings me to the next point, which is not yet confirmed at all by M$. But with my wondering brain believe the following scenario is exactly what M$ are gearing towards.

The Slim 360. What has that got to do with any of the afformentioned announcements?

M$ are now in a prime position to capatilise perfectly on a Slim 360. The design of a Slim would be able to do away with the existing 360 HDD completely. Currently USB devices are maxed at 30gb. I believe this is purely so the HDD's will continue to sell at this moment in time. I believe the Slim will launch with Natal, as a package. Likely with a 60gb USB device. With the release of Natal and Slim I believe M$ will lift the 30gb limit to an endless limit. 500GB USB HDD anyone?

I firmly believe USB decision was made by M$ to make a Slim transition with no HDD much easier and influential. With not having to worry about where the bulky HDD 360 would go, they could cncentrate on a sleak and visually pleasing design for a Slim.

There is little point in releasing a Slim after a 360 Natal package to. It makes perfect business sense that this new revitalised 360 in Slim form is released with the Natal package. And firmly believe that is why the USB stuff is being introduced now.

 

What do you guys think? E3 announcement anyone?



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kingofwale on 30 March 2010

if there is anything Microsoft needs to make "slim" of, it is that god-awful power brick.

other than that, the size of xbox is not a issue at all.



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selnor on 30 March 2010
kingofwale said:
if there is anything Microsoft needs to make "slim" of, it is that god-awful power brick.

other than that, the size of xbox is not a issue at all.


The HDD currently means a Slim 360 with one would have to put it on top. If it went on the side or back of a Slim, it wouldnt change in size. Because the HDD is effectively the same size as the height of the 360 if laid down. Essentially it wouldn't be Slimmed with one. They would have to get rid of it for a Slim design.



kingofwale on 30 March 2010
selnor said:
kingofwale said:
if there is anything Microsoft needs to make "slim" of, it is that god-awful power brick.

other than that, the size of xbox is not a issue at all.


The HDD currently means a Slim 360 with one would have to put it on top. If it went on the side or back of a Slim, it wouldnt change in size. Because the HDD is effectively the same size as the height of the 360 if laid down. Essentially it wouldn't be Slimmed with one. They would have to get rid of it for a Slim design.

no, xbox is in an 'arm race' with PS3 in term of HDD size. currently topping out at 250. I don't see them ever going to flash memory completely. It makes no sense to their Netflex committments.



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
Krill on 30 March 2010

I'm sure the power brick will get slimmed down at the same time as the release of the Slim (if it is indeed coming). Everything would be so much more efficient in the new design there just wouldn't be the need for the current power brick. I agree it is fugly and hardly high-tech looking but mine is hidden behind my tv stand (as I'm sure is the case for most people) so even the current brick is a non-issue. I agree with Selnor: a streamlined XBox360 with usb drive and near silent operation would rejuvenate sales in my opinion.



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selnor on 30 March 2010
kingofwale said:
selnor said:
kingofwale said:
if there is anything Microsoft needs to make "slim" of, it is that god-awful power brick.

other than that, the size of xbox is not a issue at all.


The HDD currently means a Slim 360 with one would have to put it on top. If it went on the side or back of a Slim, it wouldnt change in size. Because the HDD is effectively the same size as the height of the 360 if laid down. Essentially it wouldn't be Slimmed with one. They would have to get rid of it for a Slim design.

no, xbox is in an 'arm race' with PS3 in term of HDD size. currently topping out at 250. I don't see them ever going to flash memory completely. It makes no sense to their Netflex committments.

It doesnt have to be flash memory. Essentially with a lift on the 30gb limit, you could attach any portable HDD USB. I have a 420gb portable HDD I bought for £45. A Slim 360 will not be possible with using the existing 360 HDD. It would have to sit ugly on top of the machine, or else remain the same width. There is little benefit of having 30gb flash memory USB for 360 as it stands now. Only real benefit is taking saves to your friends. I really believe M$ will have limitless USB GB size with the release of Slim.



smbu2000 on 30 March 2010
kingofwale said:
if there is anything Microsoft needs to make "slim" of, it is that god-awful power brick.

other than that, the size of xbox is not a issue at all.

Actually, I think the power brick has gotten smaller over time. The power brick on my original Core 360 from late 2006 is bigger than the power brick that came with my MW2 360.

Not my picture, but one I found online:

http://killridemedley.webs.com/Misc/2009_11120192.JPG

There's a different pic from somebody else here as well:

http://img3.sankakustatic.com/wp-content/gallery/misc-images-xxvii/ps3-slim-xbox-360-comparison.jpg




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weaponx3 on 30 March 2010

why would they have no internal hd? A usb drive would be a lot slower...look how much they charge for their hdd...the extenal ones would be even more from MS unless your using your own..so they add natal and lose the external hd? Bad move...i don't see them giving you an external harddrive with paying for it separate and if that's the case....i can see them only using an offiical ext MS to get more then 30 gb limit..like kingofwale said...they should put the brick as part of the system and also wifi...but I don't see them doing wifi since they sell it separately...i would be interested in getting a slim but if there's no internal hd...they can kiss my ass



selnor on 30 March 2010
weaponx3 said:
why would they have no internal hd? A usb drive would be a lot slower...look how much they charge for their hdd...the extenal ones would be even more from MS unless your using your own..so they add natal and lose the external hd? Bad move...i don't see them giving you an external harddrive with paying for it separate and if that's the case....i can see them only using an offiical ext MS to get more then 30 gb limit..like kingofwale said...they should put the brick as part of the system and also wifi...but I don't see them doing wifi since they sell it separately...i would be interested in getting a slim but if there's no internal hd...they can kiss my ass


Internal HDD would not be needed. Releae the slim with a 60gb USB flash memory solves any new adopters issues. Also M$ have already confirmed that any make will work with the 360. If they lifted the 30gb limit with the slim, I would use my 420gb HDD USB I have. And no speed is not an issue. The existing 360 HDD is not actually internal. It has a connection which is the same speed as the 360's USB speed.



STEKSTAV on 30 March 2010

I dont know why people try to make the Slim as something that will help sell 360s.. SONYs slim wasnt the selling point, it was its price and focus on marketing. The re-design most likely had a very small effect on sales.

I dont see the need for a 360 slim tbh.