I'm sure that you have read about the bombings yesterday, but just a trivia/ discussion question, does anybody realize the similarities between the russian's terrorism, and what has happened in america like 9/11, and the numerous attempts or even just planned attacks that have place?

I'd say the big difference.

Mainly, the US gets attacked, the US invades Afghanistan.

Russia invades Chechnya, Russia deports a bunch of the people which kills about 1/4th of them. Get their independence when the USSR falls. Russia invades them again. Russia gets attacked.

Not that innoncent people deserve to be killed by terrorists but...

I'd hardly say the two comparisons are comprable.

but, it's the same result, either way. Either way, you are disrupting a less advantaged country, and winning by showing them who's boss. Ultimately, you have to do this, i'm not saying that Russia's way is less heavyhanded b/c it is, just that our actions are also disruptive to the economy and sense of normalcy.

Hadn't heard of these bombings

These were two women that bombed civilian targets simultaneously, who are suspected of coming from the caucasus region, an area known for having a muslim majority, and use these attacks to further their political goals of secession of them wanting russia to allow the chechens to leave russia without a big fight.  They also used Al Queda's trademark of multiple attacks simultaneously, which AQ is known for and were obviously paying homage to people that do the terrorism thing much more skillfully.

Thanks for explaining it. That's insane! I can't believe I didn't hear about it. I should pay more attention to the news.

I wouldn't really say it was the same result.  The russians killed 1/4th of their population and expelled them from their land for like 40 years.

This is also assuming we believe the russians that it was those rebels.

If you study the Russian Chechynian conflict... it's really hard to find a "good guy."

Imagine the Palestine VS Israel conflict except Israel constantly ignored human rights, indiscriminatly kill and even go out of there way to kill human rights activists.

In Soviet Russia... maybe its too soon.

They didn't get there independance, or at least no one recognized them. They were briefly autonomous because russia was too weak to proper police all its regions.

The deportations you speak of happened during the Soviet period while Josef Stalin was in charge. To understand the circumstances under which the deportations took place I would suggest reading here or any other numerous sources.

http://www.massviolence.org/The-Massive-Deportation-of-the-Chechen-People-How-and-why

By the way your comparisons between the USA getting attacked and Russia invading and then being attacked are flawed.

Until this very day there has been no proof that Afghanistan has had anything to do with 9/11. Furthermore the bombers that the USA itself states took part in the attack were mostly Saudi nationals.

The Chechnia situation would be more comparable to a  state in America attempting to secede and the US government using force to prevent it from doing so.

Now personally I'm not saying Russia or the Chechens are right but to compare that situation to what the USA has done in the name of fighting terrorism is laughable and a great distortion of the facts.

And regarding the recent bombings, they were senseless and will have the opposite effect to the one that the bombers were hoping for. It will only serve to unite Russians behind their leadership and will not alter Russia's policy besides them increasing security.