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All that matters is the HYPE!

Natal is NEW

Move is OLD

the UK press is going MAD for natal everyone is saying how good it is and they are testing OLD E3 builds. Personly im looking for a new experence NOT my Wii with better graphics.

ITS ALL about natal even if it HALF works... it will FEEL revolutionary just like the wii did a few years ago... where as move can only be so good as we have already used the concept on the wii.

MS are aiming at the casual gamer and thats all about making the controls simplier, personly i think sony has lost the plot! there controler is complicated and LESS inviting than the Wiis.

Im a hardcore gamer and id be horrified if there were roumors of killzone 3 using Move.... just think how that will change pad vs remote skill level online? Eveyone knows resident evil 4 was WAY easier on the wii due to easy head shots. I dont get how sony could level a game like this online without it becoming cheap and un balanced.

its ALL about the new for me. im not intrested in move at all and neither is the press here... its very lack luster.





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Cueil said:
realill said:
Cueil said:
except Natal isn't based on 3DV technology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Natal

Project Natal is likely based on software technology developed internally by Microsoft and 3D camera technology by Israeli developer Prime Sense, which interprets 3D scene information from a continuous infrared pattern.[15][16] It was initially reported that the hardware was acquired from time-of-flight camera developer 3DV Systems.[17][8][18][19][20][21] However, this was dismissed by comments from Alex Kipman, Natal's lead developer, who stated "Our IR does not pulse and it is not based on a TOF system."[22]

debunked on the effing day of the announcement... amazing how retarded some people are... even the guy in charge who named it said it wasn't... I can pull up more links if you want

 

Microsoft's Shane Kim has said that the systems making up Project Natal have been in development "for a long time", and distanced the full-body motion-sensing camera from the company's acquisition of 3DV Systems.

Following the announcement at the platform holder's E3 conference on Monday, many assumed that Natal's technology and 3DV's (seen in late 2007 prior to the company's acquisition) were one and the same, but Kim told VentureBeat, "At Microsoft Research, we have had a lot of working going on for a long time."

His colleague Aaron Greenberg was even more direct. Asked whether Natal was derived from 3DV technology, he told Eurogamer: "No, we built this in house."

"None of those rumours did justice to what we were actually doing with Project Natal. People expected a controller you put in your hands," Kim said to VentureBeat. "We have done a lot of work in natural user interfaces. Voice recognition is one of them. That's why we have been able to deliver development kits for it this week."

Microsoft hasn't gone it completely alone though, as Kim admitted "it's a combination of partners and our own software", and some have theorised that acquisitions like 3DV's were designed to insure the company against similar patents. "You have to be very aware," Kim said. "We want to ensure that we have great intellectual property protection. You have to have a strong legal approach, and this is not easy stuff. It has to be all buttoned up, legally. We have had a very concerted focus on this."

Elsewhere in the interview, Kim implied that Natal was as good as a new console anyway. "We firmly believe that the Xbox 360 has a life cycle through 2015," he said when asked about future plans for Xbox

 

source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/e3-natal-not-derived-from-3dv


So what you are saying is that Natal wasnt derived from 3dv becouse MS said it wasnt? Just as move wasnt a copy of the wiimote becouse Sony had been working on move for years?



 

 assumption is the mother of all f**k ups 

Because Sony knows exactly how Natal works and Microsoft doesn't.



Galaki said:
Because Sony knows exactly how Natal works and Microsoft doesn't.

Why did we not see you like this when the "Nintendo turned down Natal!" threads were about?

OT:
This could come back to bite them in the butt...



                            

I predict Natal to win the battle vs. Sony Move. Quote me on this.



Everyone needs to play Lost Odyssey! Any opposition to this and I will have to just say, "If it's a fight you want, you got it!"

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Carl2291 said:
Galaki said:
Because Sony knows exactly how Natal works and Microsoft doesn't.

Why did we not see you like this when the "Nintendo turned down Natal!" threads were about?

OT:
This could come back to bite them in the butt...


I agree with this. It's going to be the consumer who decides which one of these techs is more appealing, Sony COULD have backed the wrong horse by passing on this, IF the consumer decides that the Move is too "me too" to purchase. I'm assuming that's what you were referring to Carl? Anyway, it's nice to see that one Sony fan is able to see more than one possible outcome on an issue. I used caps to show that really we have no idea what the consumer will decide.

My official predictions:

20% - Move is a hit

20% - Natal is a hit

10% - They both are hits

50% - 2 companies with large quantities of paperweights on their hands



CommonMan said:

I agree with this. It's going to be the consumer who decides which one of these techs is more appealing, Sony COULD have backed the wrong horse by passing on this, IF the consumer decides that the Move is too "me too" to purchase. I'm assuming that's what you were referring to Carl? Anyway, it's nice to see that one Sony fan is able to see more than one possible outcome on an issue. I used caps to show that really we have no idea what the consumer will decide.

Pretty much, yeah.

If Natal takes off and PS Move... Doesn't. It could prove vital.



                            

Did Nintendo say they passed on the tech because it was not reliable? Nope.
Sony did.

I got a warning for trolling, LOL.



Galaki said:
Did Nintendo say they passed on the tech because it was not reliable? Nope.
Sony did.

I got a warning for trolling, LOL.

So? The point still stands. You weren't running your mouth when it was revealed Ninty turned it down.

And i'm not surprised. Maybe you will stop the trolling now. Bye.



                            

The point is that Sony trash talked.
Facts is taken as trolling because it does not support your argument?