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Kasz216 on 29 March 2010
Gilgamesh said:
Kasz216 said:
Gilgamesh... all I have to say is... take an economics class that deals with piracy. I don't think you understand how piracy works. Your formula to how you get 20-30 million in losses is kinda silly.

It's also meaningless. Removing features to stop piracy is wrong. No matter what system is doing it. If wii removed SD card functunality to stop piracy it would be wrong.

I think you don't understand the important's of Linux on the PS3 compared to SD cards. I would like to know how many people actually regularly use Linux on the PS3 (out of the lets say 30 million phat owners) I doubt it's more then 500K. First thing is it's not the easiest thing to install, and second it's incredibly slow because of the lack of RAM, almost unusable at some points. It's not like it's something really important, the OS is not really one of the main features of the PS3, it's more of an extra, something thrown in the package, that's the way I see it.

Well I guess they didn't really lose it, but they could of gained some more money. Sure they wouldn't have the same numbers of sales as they had pirated copies if the system was unhackable, but I'm sure they still would of had a reasonable amount of people buying the game if they knew they couldn't pirate it.

A PC is still the best. You have to admit that, any normal PC beats Linux on the PS3.

As long as 1 person uses it, it doesn't matter.



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perpride on 29 March 2010
Random Canadian said:
Wow so many ignorant people.
You think if Nintendo could close up their security flaws by taking away 1 feature that .01% of their customers use they wouldnt? You think if microsoft could do the same to fix their crappy security on their DVDROMs they wouldnt do it as well? get real.

Dude I don't care how many percent of the population use that feature.

I USE THAT FEATURE. I don't care for anyone else. They sold me a console and told me it was going to do something. I used the feature that they told me they would include. Now, they are taking that feature away.

It's really as simple as that. If Microsoft or Nintendo did that I'd be flaming them just as hard.

@Gilgamesh - Very well, let's say the Xbox Live analogy was off and we were in fact talking about including Wi-Fi. If I bought a console with Wi-Fi then Sony disabled it...I'd be hella fucking pissed right now. The only reason most people aren't bothered by this is because NONE of you use the feature. But just because you don't doesn't mean I am the same way...Kasz is 100% right with comparing this to Nintendo taking the SD card out of the DS.

 



Reasonable on 29 March 2010
dsister44 said:
Severance said:
Wow you guys make a big fucking deal out of something so stupid and so useless.
go on waste your time.

Is that a challenge? I can waste so much more time on this

I challenge you to waste three days with no sleep on this starting now.  I'll pop back in 72 hours and see how you're doing...



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Gilgamesh on 29 March 2010
Kasz216 said:
Gilgamesh said:
Kasz216 said:
Gilgamesh... all I have to say is... take an economics class that deals with piracy. I don't think you understand how piracy works. Your formula to how you get 20-30 million in losses is kinda silly.

It's also meaningless. Removing features to stop piracy is wrong. No matter what system is doing it. If wii removed SD card functunality to stop piracy it would be wrong.

I think you don't understand the important's of Linux on the PS3 compared to SD cards. I would like to know how many people actually regularly use Linux on the PS3 (out of the lets say 30 million phat owners) I doubt it's more then 500K. First thing is it's not the easiest thing to install, and second it's incredibly slow because of the lack of RAM, almost unusable at some points. It's not like it's something really important, the OS is not really one of the main features of the PS3, it's more of an extra, something thrown in the package, that's the way I see it.

Well I guess they didn't really lose it, but they could of gained some more money. Sure they wouldn't have the same numbers of sales as they had pirated copies if the system was unhackable, but I'm sure they still would of had a reasonable amount of people buying the game if they knew they couldn't pirate it.

A PC is still the best. You have to admit that, any normal PC beats Linux on the PS3.

As long as 1 person uses it, it doesn't matter.

...What? That makes no sense at all?

So your saying Sony should risk the PS3 being modded by hackers because 1 person out of 30 million likes Linux on the PS3?

The PS3 is gaming machine first, not a computer.



dsister44 on 29 March 2010
Reasonable said:
dsister44 said:
Severance said:
Wow you guys make a big fucking deal out of something so stupid and so useless.
go on waste your time.

Is that a challenge? I can waste so much more time on this

I challenge you to waste three days with no sleep on this starting now.  I'll pop back in 72 hours and see how you're doing...

You don't know what you'll starting 

I'm homeschooled. One "I'm dead" message on Facebook and I can be free for months



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Kasz216 on 29 March 2010
Gilgamesh said:
Kasz216 said:
Gilgamesh said:
Kasz216 said:
Gilgamesh... all I have to say is... take an economics class that deals with piracy. I don't think you understand how piracy works. Your formula to how you get 20-30 million in losses is kinda silly.

It's also meaningless. Removing features to stop piracy is wrong. No matter what system is doing it. If wii removed SD card functunality to stop piracy it would be wrong.

I think you don't understand the important's of Linux on the PS3 compared to SD cards. I would like to know how many people actually regularly use Linux on the PS3 (out of the lets say 30 million phat owners) I doubt it's more then 500K. First thing is it's not the easiest thing to install, and second it's incredibly slow because of the lack of RAM, almost unusable at some points. It's not like it's something really important, the OS is not really one of the main features of the PS3, it's more of an extra, something thrown in the package, that's the way I see it.

Well I guess they didn't really lose it, but they could of gained some more money. Sure they wouldn't have the same numbers of sales as they had pirated copies if the system was unhackable, but I'm sure they still would of had a reasonable amount of people buying the game if they knew they couldn't pirate it.

A PC is still the best. You have to admit that, any normal PC beats Linux on the PS3.

As long as 1 person uses it, it doesn't matter.

...What? That makes no sense at all?

So your saying Sony should risk the PS3 being modded by hackers because 1 person out of 30 million likes Linux on the PS3?

The PS3 is gaming machine first, not a computer.

They ALREADY risked that.  By adding the option in the first place.

So long as an option they offered is used by one person, it is wrong for Sony to remove that from already sold product. 

Also.

"The PlayStation [3] is not a game machine. We've never once called it a game machine," stated Kutaragi at the beginning of his latest interview. "

We haven't been creating our [past] PlayStations for the sake of games. Our belief, and the motivation behind running our company, has been to (explore ways of) applying the power of computers to entertainment and enjoyment. We equipped the original PlayStation with a 3D graphics chip, and we equipped the PS2 with the Emotion engine. The PS3 isn't designed to lean towards games. It's not a computer for children. In the sense that our goal has been (to create) a computer that's meant for entertainment, you could say that the original PlayStation and PlayStation 2 had existed as steps towards the PlayStation 3."

http://www.cnet.com.au/kutaragi-playstation-3-is-not-a-games-machine-240054965.htm



pizzahut451 on 29 March 2010

i couldnt care less about linux on my ps3, as long i can play uncharted 2,gow3,mw2, watch movies, browse internet porn, chat with friends and game share games from ps store on my PS3 everything will be fine



Seece on 29 March 2010
Squilliam said:
dsister44 said:
Squilliam said:
dsister44 said:
Ssenkahdavic said:

Exactly what Im going to do with my current Phat.  Ill just go buy a Slim for newer releases.  No problem here.

Sadly, for a highschool student without a job. That isn't an option. 

;_; ;_; ;_; im so very sorry. I would give you $5 for your new PS3 fund if it'd help?

Just send it to Zexen. He needs it more

Hes too weak to use it.

LOL, shh



 

Gilgamesh on 29 March 2010
Kasz216 said:
Gilgamesh said:
Kasz216 said:
Gilgamesh said:
Kasz216 said:
Gilgamesh... all I have to say is... take an economics class that deals with piracy. I don't think you understand how piracy works. Your formula to how you get 20-30 million in losses is kinda silly.

It's also meaningless. Removing features to stop piracy is wrong. No matter what system is doing it. If wii removed SD card functunality to stop piracy it would be wrong.

I think you don't understand the important's of Linux on the PS3 compared to SD cards. I would like to know how many people actually regularly use Linux on the PS3 (out of the lets say 30 million phat owners) I doubt it's more then 500K. First thing is it's not the easiest thing to install, and second it's incredibly slow because of the lack of RAM, almost unusable at some points. It's not like it's something really important, the OS is not really one of the main features of the PS3, it's more of an extra, something thrown in the package, that's the way I see it.

Well I guess they didn't really lose it, but they could of gained some more money. Sure they wouldn't have the same numbers of sales as they had pirated copies if the system was unhackable, but I'm sure they still would of had a reasonable amount of people buying the game if they knew they couldn't pirate it.

A PC is still the best. You have to admit that, any normal PC beats Linux on the PS3.

As long as 1 person uses it, it doesn't matter.

...What? That makes no sense at all?

So your saying Sony should risk the PS3 being modded by hackers because 1 person out of 30 million likes Linux on the PS3?

The PS3 is gaming machine first, not a computer.

They ALREADY risked that.  By adding the option in the first place.

So long as an option they offered is used by one person, it is wrong for Sony to remove that from already sold product. 

Also.

"The PlayStation [3] is not a game machine. We've never once called it a game machine," stated Kutaragi at the beginning of his latest interview. "

We haven't been creating our [past] PlayStations for the sake of games. Our belief, and the motivation behind running our company, has been to (explore ways of) applying the power of computers to entertainment and enjoyment. We equipped the original PlayStation with a 3D graphics chip, and we equipped the PS2 with the Emotion engine. The PS3 isn't designed to lean towards games. It's not a computer for children. In the sense that our goal has been (to create) a computer that's meant for entertainment, you could say that the original PlayStation and PlayStation 2 had existed as steps towards the PlayStation 3."

http://www.cnet.com.au/kutaragi-playstation-3-is-not-a-games-machine-240054965.htm

lol at the article, that was back in 2005

Do you really think that's Sony's goal now? From what I seen they've focus ALL there intentions on games games and more games. When the PS3 first came out they were calling it a Blu-Ray player more then a gaming machine, but after Blu-Ray won then HD format they changed the PS3 again and started calling it a gaming machine.

The OS, Browser, ability to play movies/songs/images doesn't make Sony money, games do. No matter what they say all they really want is money. Not to long ago they said they were going to keep the OS, but now that there at risk of having the PS3 hacked they have to do the right thing and that's to get rid of the OS in order to keep people from hacking the PS3.

Like I said, it's Geohot's fault not Sony that this is happening.



Metallicube on 29 March 2010

Wow, I think PS3 hold the record for console with the most features axed off of it.