I think its appropriate. 

First of all, Kristallnact means the night of the broken glass, which is what happened to the property of several Democrat sentators.  It was a method used by the Nazis to insight people to riot and harm a group of people, just as Conservative activists insighted people to harm Democrats by posting addresses of their homes, offices, and other family members for people to "pay them a visit."  Furthermore, the method of posting personal information online, such as home and office addresses, is a tactic used by Neo-Nazis today when they try to insight people to attack their targets.  Thats not to mention other methods of intimidation that the Nazi's agaisnt political opponets in Germany.

So yes, the conservative activists are easily comparable to Nazis.

Political violence is bad, mmmkay? But if you're horrified by violence from a bunch of knuckledragging hillbilly Nazis and not bothered in the least by the violence perpetrated by the enlightened ones with whom you clearly identify... that's pretty fishy. So, yeah, I think it's bleedingly clear what Manus' motive is.

The founding fathers had a much more rancorous discourse than you seem to think, Zucas. I know you fancy yourself something of an aspiring intellectual, so maybe you ought to crack a book before trying to cite any more history.

Comparing it to Kristallnacht = bad idea.

Also threats of violence and acts of violence against lawmakers (or anybody, but especially lawmakers given their responsibilities) is extremely bad. It's even worse when it's being done by other lawmakers.

Also I've decided that my opinion on the American government is that the entire system is shit =P and no I'm not another states rights supporter I just think the system is broken from the top down.

Looks like Cantor is full of shit.

Source

"A Richmond Police detective was assigned to the case. A preliminary investigation shows that a bullet was fired into the air and struck the window in a downward direction, landing on the floor about a foot from the window. The round struck with enough force to break the windowpane but did not penetrate the window blinds. There was no other damage to the room, which is used occasionally for meetings by the congressman."

Since no doubt Manus would likely overlook this in his hysteria to label people nazis....

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/35016.html

"We must remember that the folks committing these acts are small in number, extreme in their methods and not yet proven to be members of our movement,” he said. “But we must be diligent in denouncing all acts of political violence and racism, when they occur.”

Additionally, politcal attacks like this are fun. Jump on someone before they get a chance to denounce something they obviously were going to announce and them when they do denounce it you can claim it was only because of your pressure... or even better hopefully by the time they denounce it everyone has long stopped caring about the story and people think they never did denounce the actions of some really extreme group that may have even had no connection to a party or movement.

I can imagine that presidential assassains went undenounced, not because the opposing party was happy, but because it was common sense that politicians were against violence.

As for the actual threats by politicians when they call people "Dead men" they mean in the next election, how goofy would you need to be to think otherwise?

Kasz, its great that the Tea Party is condemning acts of violence and I hope that they refuse to allow these people in their ranks.  However, let us not forget that it was Tea Party activists and Tea Party websites that posted addresses of Democratic Congressman's homes and offices, inciting people to 'pay them a visit.'

The sour turn in American politics is entirely the fault of conservatives.  With the election of Barrack Obama, conservatives have become increasing rowdy and decietful to the extent that it greatly surpases any undemocratic political atmosphere that America has encountered in several decades.  Republican congressman yelling, "you lie" and "baby killer" during speeches such as the State of the Union address is an outrageously uncivil action that hasn't been present in American politics in a very long time.  Also, decietful accusations by Republicans, such as forced abortions and death panels to kill people's grandmothers, has angered Americans who actually believed their statements, inciting them to violence.  And in all honesty, if I believed somebody was going to kill my grandmother, I'd probably become violent as well to prevent it from happening.

There is no doubt that conservatives, both those on the fringe and Republican congressman themselves, has changed America's political environment for the worse.

So instead of giving people the benefit of the doubt, we let paranoia take over and assume the enemies are at our doorsteps.  As one that wishes they were an intellectual, maybe you and I should both crack open that book.  Had more in the post, but I'll PM the rest to ya.  Don't want to deride the topic further than it already is.

Except that's not true Manus... senators and congressmen routinley booed and said nasty things during Bush's state of the Union adresses. Clinton too.

http://mediamatters.org/research/200502040014

As for the "forced abortions" and "Death panels"... it helps to note where those claims came from.

Death panels came from two issues, one being the restrictions of benefits which would "sentence" people to death who paid their entire lives for health benefits. You see this in the UK, there is some ageism in treatments. The second is in the "end of life counsling" which people find disturbing because they beleive these should be things planned for since many elderly are a lot more suggestiable when younger. Sensationalized term yes? More so then normal? No.


As for the forced abortion claim... that came from the fact that Obama's science Czar actually coauthorted a book that said the government would have to forcibly abort and sterilize people. A position which he never denounced "which must mean he's for it" by your logic above, even more so since he can actually be linked to the book unlike the people your condeming.

Of which, this bill would obviously be a first step since you would need control over healthcare before such a thing could happen. Once again an exageration i bad taste? Yes. One that's worse then the normal political scene? No. Attacking peoples past positions and their advisors past positions is a norm in politics. It's just this time he was tied to something particularly bad.

In short... the poltical climate isn't anymore "poisonous" then it's ever been. That itself is just another bit of political spin.

It's ALWAYS been in this same shitty state and fully used by both parties. With exceptions really only being when something external threatened the two parties enough for short periods of time, like major wars and 9/11. This stuff happens even when major legislation isn't passed, instead of it being brought up all the time for a mature trying to get people to stop, it's only brought up when it can be used for political gain.