Smashed said:
Smashchu2 said:
First off, I think this generation will be quick for both Sony and Microsoft. They have no more aces up their sleeves (save maybe GT5) and the software has not driven the hardware in the long term, only price cuts have helped in the regard. After Move fails, and it probably will, expect the next system between 2011 and 2012.
I think Sony will be moving up market with the PS4. It's goal is going to try and push better graphics and sound as well as 3D, which they will see as the wave of the future. It wont do as much as the PS3 will and be Sony's Gamecube. |
So wait... Why is Move going to fail?
You seem so confident. Please, enlighten me on WHY Move will fail?
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There are a lot of reasons. The major one is the software. Any Wii owner can tell you that the software looks like shovelware on the Wii. Most of the titles are already avaliable on the Wii and are better.
- Sports Champion-This is a bad Wii Sports Resort. One of the biggest flaws I saw was the sword fighting. First, why are they in a roman setting with baseball caps? Also, they are attacking each other with real swords. That's very violent! Swordplay in Wii Sports Resort was designed very well. You use Kendo sticks to know the other play into the water. No violent, but it has a unique charm to it. The archery also doesn't look as polished as Wii Sports Resort. This game would have also been out for more then a year in the US.
- Move party-There are way too many party games on the Wii like Carnival Games, Wii Play and Mario Party 8. There is just too many alternatives on the Wii. Also, the guys in the hair cutting game look way to creepy. This is a family game, right?
- Motion Fighter-From what I've heard, it's gester based. So, this is Sony's Punch-Out. Also, it's way too "gritty." Note that ~50% of the Wii's audience is female. Would females really want to play this game?
- SOCOM-Again, the Wii lacks a strong FPS. However, this still has to compete with Red Stee; and the Conduit. If it is not as fun, then the game can not compete. Also, again, there are a lof of females who play the Wii, and I doubt they will want to play this game.
- LittleBigPlanet-Can't compete with New Super Mario Bros Wii. Not that it's a bad game, but it's not the same caliber as Mario.
- The Shoot-Again, so many rail shooters on the Wii, including the shooting game in Wii Play. Too many alternatives
- TV Superstars-A weird party game. More alternatives
- Eye Pet-A creepy Nintendog. It just looks too weird. Also, the reason we never say Nintendogs on the Wii is becuase this game isn't fun on a console. You can take Nintendogs where ever you want. You can't do that on a console, where you better off playing with the real dog at your house. Also, Nintendogs is an alternative to a real dog. It doesn't make mess, you don't have to feed it, and, for Japan, you can actually OWN one in a small house. Since there is no real animal called an "Eye Pet," there is no demand to play with a virtual version.
The Move is also missing a lot of other games Nintendo has, such as Mario Kart Wii, Wii Fit (a big one), Wii Relax, and Zelda Wii. This gives consumers a lot more choice. Most games for Move are either an alternative to a Wii game or are not going to be interesting to the Expanded Audience (Eye Pet, SOCOM). Launch games tend to be surpassed by laters software. The early Move games just aren't going to be as good as the Wii games we have now. There is definatle a time factor, that Move's very early games have to compete with the Wii's games which have had plenty of time to get better and better.
The other thing is price. When consumers look at the product offerings, they will look at everything, so let us compair the prices of buying a new Wii and PS3 (with Move of course).
| |
Wii |
PS3 |
| The system |
$200 |
$300 |
| The controller |
Nothing, save $20 for M+ |
$100 (starter kit) |
| A Game |
$50 |
$60 |
| Another controller |
~$80(Remote+Nunchuck+M+) |
$60-$100 |
| Total |
$350 |
$520-$560 |
Take a look at the gap in price. $350 is a lot, but it also comes with a game and a remote, and you don't have to buy a knunchuk or Motion Plus. The PS3 cost about $520. That is a heck of a lot. This will turn most consumers away immediatly. This, coupled with weaker software means deal on arival.
But let's not forget the weaker tech. Oh yes, despite what Sony has said, the Move isn't that good. The Wii Remote has a built in camera which allows it to track it's motion relative to inferred light. The Move uses the camera to sense where the controller is. What this means is that as you add more controllers, the Move degrades. The Wii never degrades in quality with more remotes becuase the remote does all the sensing itself. This breaks up all the work load. The Move doesn't, so all of it's work is dependent on the camera. As more moves appear, the more work the camera has to do to keep up with all the moves. This makes it less viable for multiplayer games, a big selling point of the Wii. if it can't compete in price, games OR multiplayer, there would be no reason to buy one.
Also, the Wii Remote was designed to fit in a living room. This is why it looks like a remote. Move looks like a gimmicky lollipop.
