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Doobie_wop on 15 March 2010
Metallicube said:

Most people that are hyping up the Move (at least at the present time) I'm convinced are just trying to spite Nintendo or are just blind hardcore Sony fanboys that will gobble up any junk they throw out. The games that use it look like an absolute joke and the people that have actually used it says it doesn't even work as good as the Wiimote, a product that has been out for 3 and a half years. I don't see how anyone in the right mind can be excited for it at least based on the games that have been shown for it thus far.

I'm hyping up Move because from what I've seen they are already providing me with several games I'd like to purchase (Socom 4, Motion Fighters and Modnation racers). I'm excited for it and I don't consider myself a blind, hardcore Sony fanboy. I'm just a guy who bought a Wii and now regrets it because it lacks games which interest me. The Wii fans seem to be acting so insecure about their precious motion controls and it's getting pretty pathetic.



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

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Rpruett on 15 March 2010
Metallicube said:

Most people that are hyping up the Move (at least at the present time) I'm convinced are just trying to spite Nintendo or are just blind hardcore Sony fanboys that will gobble up any junk they throw out. The games that use it look like an absolute joke and the people that have actually used it says it doesn't even work as good as the Wiimote, a product that has been out for 3 and a half years. I don't see how anyone in the right mind can be excited for it at least based on the games that have been shown for it thus far.

I don't believe that at all.  I think most people hyped for Move are assuming Move will be a slightly more accurate/responsive Wii Motion+ with much better graphics,  more outside the box ideas,  a bunch of Wii ports,  playing games with great graphics and motion controls, possibly playing 3D Games with great graphics / motion controls.

 

Also why wouldn't you be hyped for Move / Natal?  If it opens up more quality game types / experiences to already awesome systems why wouldn't you want that to come to your system?  

 

Nintendo people seem to think that the gaming world revolves around Nintendo.  It just isn't true.  Motion Controls worked out for Nintendo but the lack of graphics / Quality 3rd party support has really put a black mark on the Wii as a whole.   With Sony/MS joining the ranks 3rd party support will definitely increase and game quality most likely will as well. 



Smashed on 15 March 2010
Rpruett said:
Metallicube said:

Most people that are hyping up the Move (at least at the present time) I'm convinced are just trying to spite Nintendo or are just blind hardcore Sony fanboys that will gobble up any junk they throw out. The games that use it look like an absolute joke and the people that have actually used it says it doesn't even work as good as the Wiimote, a product that has been out for 3 and a half years. I don't see how anyone in the right mind can be excited for it at least based on the games that have been shown for it thus far.

I don't believe that at all.  I think most people hyped for Move are assuming Move will be a slightly more accurate/responsive Wii Motion+ with much better graphics,  more outside the box ideas,  a bunch of Wii ports,  playing games with great graphics and motion controls, possibly playing 3D Games with great graphics / motion controls.

 

Also why wouldn't you be hyped for Move / Natal?  If it opens up more quality game types / experiences to already awesome systems why wouldn't you want that to come to your system?  

 

Nintendo people seem to think that the gaming world revolves around Nintendo.  It just isn't true.  Motion Controls worked out for Nintendo but the lack of graphics / Quality 3rd party support has really put a black mark on the Wii as a whole.   With Sony/MS joining the ranks 3rd party support will definitely increase and game quality most likely will as well. 

@Rpruett

Great post sir.

Hats off to you.



sniper936 on 15 March 2010

Sony is simply trying to attract new fans, more casual fans, cuz clearly Sony is the bettr system already, look at the CBE: 7 SPE's (in a way like 7 cores) One of the best, if not the best for the time of the release of the PS3. GPU: RSX isnt a very good GPU, even the Xenon form the 360 beats it, but compared to the wii, PS3 wins, no contest really. Blu-ray as well. Blue tooth, better wireless connectivity, obviously a lot better games, games that didnt have an Italian plumber as the main character (Mario), and even the controller itself is better in the eyes of a pro gamer. All these aspects and much more benefit the PS3, and for pro gamers especially. AND NOBODY SAY ANYTHING REFERING TO PC BEING "SUPER ULTRA PRO GAMING", ITS NOT IN THE DISCUSSION. even casual gamers have the benefit if they buy a PS3 rather than a Wii. Look at the Wii's aspects now: a motion controller. phew... that was a long list. Well now PS3 is going to have a motion controller, a motion controller that is better than the motion controller that carried the Wii's sales until the release of the Move. So, if someone can properly explain how releasing a controller that will in fact make the PS3 superior in ALL categories, actually increase the wii's sales, rather than the PS3's? Seriously, id love to know



jarrod on 15 March 2010
angelbabysinny said:
Of the 70 million Wii out there I would bet anything about 80-90% were bought from parents for their kids.  

You'd lose that bet. 70% of Wii owners had a PS2 last gen.



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.jayderyu on 15 March 2010

The ignorance on this sight seems to have jumped a lot in the last week. There is this bizzaar assumption that forum user habits are equal to the habits of everyone. This is an interesting take since that's the sign of an upstream or enthusiast market. An enthusiast have different values than the regular user. Let alone enthusiasts again assume that regular users have the same values.

It's like saying that food critics assume that people never eat at Mc Donalds becuase the food is crap. Well yeah that maybe somewhat true, but the enthusiast critic doesn't value the speed, fatty taste and price. why because they are an enthusiast who only care about the elite end of food coneiseuor.

There are too many posts here that just scream "I'm an enthusiast and I'm spouting nonsense because EVERYONE is like me". Let alone there is clear market facts and survey studies to go against those statements. As some one said before. "This topic is great. It's like a History lesson. Except the people who should be listening aren't."

Look, the Move won't really increase sales of the Wii. however the other points are right. It will make little impact. People who bought the PS3 didn't buy it for motion controls. They bought it for the library. People bought the Wii not for the controls but the library that the controls offered. Move will not be hitting the ground running with it's library.



Squilliam: On Vgcharts its a commonly accepted practice to twist the bounds of plausibility in order to support your argument or agenda so I think its pretty cool that this gives me the precedent to say whatever I damn well please.

Games4Fun on 15 March 2010

Dead horse is dead.



Hus on 15 March 2010
Rpruett said:
I think the reason people don't own a Wii but own a 360/PS3 isn't because of the motion controls and it's not even so much of a lack of interest in motion controls.

It's the lack of compelling software, the target audience of many Wii games vs PS3/360 and the complete lack of visual quality. (IE: Why buy something new that looks almost exactly like Gamecube/PS2/Xbox level).

Move will help Sony claim it's stake on the casual market and dip into the Nintendo pie. It won't do tremendous damage though but it merely will put it on the map. Although depending on how impressive the software gets with Move, It definitely could throw Sony over the top.

Ture, even my technologically idiot gf loves PS3 graphics and has asked why wii games look so crap compared to my PS3 ones.



megaman79 on 15 March 2010

It makes sense. To argue that game quality, graphics or online actually matter is ignoring the fact that none of those things mattered at all in the last 3 years anyway.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

rakugakist on 15 March 2010
jarrod said:
angelbabysinny said:
Of the 70 million Wii out there I would bet anything about 80-90% were bought from parents for their kids.  

You'd lose that bet. 70% of Wii owners had a PS2 last gen.

So, where'd you get that number from?