I came in here because I couldn't help doing it.

Me not commenting is partially thanks to me not playing FFXIII yet - and not playing it for some months yet - and partially because I love you guys.

This counts as your freaking Christmas presents!

DEAR GOD TELL ME THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENS! MY MOUSE WENT ALL CRAZY AND I ACCIDENTALY READ THAT!! NOOOOO!!

*suicides*

I completely agree. 12 was kind of a mess gameplay and story wise, but it wasn't the worst FF. That crown goes to X-2.

I accept this generous gift of yours. I was keeping up with thread just waiting until you showed up.

I don't know if she actually pulls it off, but I know that is what she trying to do.

I know that's what she wants... i'm at chapter 7... What chapter are you in? GOD i'd hate if this damn mouse just spoiled one of my favourite games ever!

*small spoiler ahead for chapter 1* Read at your own risk:

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But it doesn't make him any more likable to me, although you're right in the sense that he's acting almost believably for a 14 year old that just saw his mum went the way of the dodo (and yes that's probably the part that doesn't appeal to me). Still there's some baffling scene even starting for Chapter 1.

For example: rhe absolutely retarded setting in which they went to the Pulse fal'Cie had me scratching my head though.

We're in the middle of a warzone! The enemy has flying freakin ship with BIG HONKING LASER going pew pew pew and people are dying left and right (including hope's mother!) and what the hell does he do? By himself, probably nothing as initially he reminds me way to much of Shinji from Eva, but damn with Vanille by his side, they freakin hijack a damn flying chicken leg and flew TOWARDS the epicentre of the fight in an effort to tell Snow that he killed his mum and needs to pay (which he never gets to say until chapter 5-6 or something.)

I mean good god! Talk about suicidal tendency and the 'yes mistress' syndrome here!

God thats stupid. Especially Vanille alloying a stupid kid to drive the flying chicken leg and almost crashing to their doom and taking him into unknown danger: a 14 year old kid!!!!

She acts like the village idiot most of the time and the fustrating thing is that I KNOW the reason they made her like this.

She's the typical 'Genki Girl' architype that is very very popular in Japanese otaku culture and having a Genki Girl in an Final Fantasy is almost a mandate: 'Yuffie, Selphie, Riku etc'. The problem here is that they didn't manage to translate her well into English, a lot of personality is lost thanks to the unique (and often childish) expression and idioms being left out, dropped or simply ignored because their is no comparable in English.

I blame this on the lack of 'moe' in western culture and learn to live with it.

Bah /rant over

Can you please elaborate on how 12 was a mess of gameplay when it was the FF game with the largest amount of strategy if you tried to play it without any gambits on? 

And about the story, I won't even go there, since we could prolongue that discussion for a too large amount of pages :P  

i actually liked FFX-2, kind of, not particularly the story but gameplay, battle system and the dress spheres were pretty cool, i think it would have been better if it hadnt of existed but heyho it did and i finished it, and that was it and went back to FFX afterwards :D

FFXII is a modern classic right there with Ocarina of time, MGS and FFVII, while FFXIII is a game that's feels rushed (admitted by the director) and more like a solid 8 game.

XII is bigger, better and just more fun to play.