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Dragon Quest X - PSWii Multiplat Gonna Happen?

I'm not going to read the thread. 20 10.42%
 
Multiplat 43 22.40%
 
Not Multiplat 102 53.13%
 
Final Fantasy 7: Remake 27 14.06%
 
Total:192
Khuutra said:
Carl2291 said:
Carl2291 said:
Khuutra said:

Don't you ignore me Carl

Dragon Quest has always controlled like an NES game, it will never control like anything else. The primary supposition of this topic is fallacious.

I'm not, sorry. I need to go help my mum so if the threads still alive when i get back i will talk. Cya!

You can't say it will never control like anything else. You aren't SE, and you don't make the game.

The chances are it will control like other DQ games, but it isn't 100% certain.

Let me lay it out for you, then. I'm not sure how much Dragon Quest you've played, so I'll be as explicit as necessary.

Dragon Quest is often criticized in the West for being needlessly formulaic and holding to modes that are entirely too old. Its system changes considerably from game to game - in some ways - but at its heart its still about going around beating up mosnters quickly and cleanly with nothing getting in the way. The whole premise behind Dragon Quest is not just ease of use, but holding to old forms that facilitate that ease of use in a specific way.

Dragon Quest IX was going to have touch controls. Nothing that really changes the game! Just touch controls. They built th whole system of the game around.

When that was revealed, the uproar was unreal. Like, "Made the initial reaction to the Gambit system look like a letter to the editor" unreal. The Japanese fanbase lashed out at Square-Enix with such force that Square scrapped the entire thing, went back to square one, and redid it. It's part of why the game took so long to come out.

Part of Dragon Quest's identity in Japan - which is the most important market unless Nintendo manages to do some crazy voodoo shit in the West - lies in that simplicity of form and familiarity of function which has allowed an absurd number of Japanese people to play it (and even beat it) for decades.

So, fine. You want to say I can't know? That's cool. I acknowledge that. But it still invalidates this topic.

1. We have no indication that the game is goign to involve motion controls.

2. We have many (historic and otherwise) that it will not.

3. Following from (1) and (2), you are basing this supposition concerning the possibility of a multiplat release on an ida with no grounding in reality. That's like me saying that the next Zelda might be a cross-platform release between the DS and the Wii - yeah, I mean, there's no indication that it will happen, but it still merits discussion, right?

Wrong.

There comes a certain point wherein the suppositions that we make are so far outside the realm of reasonable expectation that they cannot be treated seriously, or even used as the jumping-off point for serious discussion.

It's not impossible! Sure, I grant that. But your primary supposition, in itself far from being a guarantee, is so unlikely that the idea is not worth seriously considering until we get some indication to the contrary.

When you put it like that, it is EXTREMELY unlikely... But as always, there is still a chance



                            

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Carl2291 said:

When you put it like that, it is EXTREMELY unlikely... But as always, there is still a chance

Yeah and there's a chance the FF7 remake will be announced tomorrow as a DS-exclusive, but none of us are going to take that seriously either



Khuutra said:
Carl2291 said:

When you put it like that, it is EXTREMELY unlikely... But as always, there is still a chance

Yeah and there's a chance the FF7 remake will be announced tomorrow as a DS-exclusive, but none of us are going to take that seriously either

Red -  Don't even go there.

As for the cocky "none of us are going to take that seriously either", plenty of people have said Multi. So get off whatever high horse it is that you are on.



                            

Carl2291 said:

Red -  Don't even go there.

As for the cocky "none of us are going to take that seriously either", plenty of people have said Multi. So get off whatever high horse it is that you are on.

Yeah I actually looked at the poll results after saying that. I shouldn't say "non of us".

I guess I should say "20% of the voters for this poll are wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong"



Is DQX a waggle heavy game ???

SE have become top whore this gen, quite possible. Though the massive horsepower difference between wii and PS3 make it highly unlikely.



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Carl2291 said:
gameheart said:
Carl2291 said:
Train wreck said:
With reports that the PS Move is already inferior to the Wii mote (even though its still in beta) and the PS3's inability to move 3rd party software, especially games created by Square Enix, I am assuming that this will remain a Wii exclusive.

Red - ?

Final Fantasy XIII has outsold every SE effort on Wii combined... In Japan alone.

Even SO4, a late port of a relatively bad game, has outsold (or about to outsell) every game SE have done on Wii baring DQ Swords.

you know it is not fair to compare the final fantasy XIII to any title that SE has done so far on wii cuz none of those title would have done any better

I didn't compare it to any. I compared it to all... And gave FFXIII a single region, while the rest had every region they had released in.

oh yeah mention one major title rather than spin-off that SE has done on wii?

Most of the games that has been released so far on wii by 3rd party including has either been spin-off or shovelware. If they have done one of the timeline of the final fantasy like XII, XIII, XIV etc. i don't see how it could fail but when you call a game like FFCC: Crystal bearers, they don't need to tell you its not a true final fantasy game and works nothing like the other traditional final fantasy before it. The same applies to DQ swords that plays nothing like the other Dragon quest before it. That is why DQ9 did exceptionally well on nintendo platform and could say the same thing for Monster Hunter 3(just a reference even though it is not an SE game). All i am saying is that any JRPG from SE will do very great if done right with the exception of spin-off



gameheart said:
Carl2291 said:
gameheart said:
Carl2291 said:
Train wreck said:
With reports that the PS Move is already inferior to the Wii mote (even though its still in beta) and the PS3's inability to move 3rd party software, especially games created by Square Enix, I am assuming that this will remain a Wii exclusive.

Red - ?

Final Fantasy XIII has outsold every SE effort on Wii combined... In Japan alone.

Even SO4, a late port of a relatively bad game, has outsold (or about to outsell) every game SE have done on Wii baring DQ Swords.

you know it is not fair to compare the final fantasy XIII to any title that SE has done so far on wii cuz none of those title would have done any better

I didn't compare it to any. I compared it to all... And gave FFXIII a single region, while the rest had every region they had released in.

oh yeah mention one major title rather than spin-off that SE has done on wii?

Most of the games that has been released so far on wii by 3rd party including has either been spin-off or shovelware. If they have done one of the timeline of the final fantasy like XII, XIII, XIV etc. i don't see how it could fail but when you call a game like FFCC: Crystal bearers, they don't need to tell you its not a true final fantasy game and works nothing like the other traditional final fantasy before it. The same applies to DQ swords that plays nothing like the other Dragon quest before it. That is why DQ9 did exceptionally well on nintendo platform and could say the same thing for Monster Hunter 3(just a reference even though it is not an SE game). All i am saying is that any JRPG from SE will do very great if done right with the exception of spin-off

I don't need to. You saying that just says all there is to say about SE games on Wii.



                            

Lol Carl...don't say such things, it scares Fanboys!



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Book - Malazan Book of the Fallen series 

Game - Metro Last Light

TV - Deadwood

Music - Forest Swords 

How many Draon Quest game are multiplat?? (Not counting remakes of course? Anyway if they wanted moneyz they'll put this baby on the DS



I don't see Dragon Quest using motion controls heavily, and I don't think the Move userbase would be enough to justify the cost of a PS3 port anyway. I say keep it on the Wii, it's about time it's had one of these big third party games all to itself.



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