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Back in the day Sega fans could have probably argued that the Sega CD and/or Sega 32X would increase the life of the Sega Genesis ...

If the Playstation Move and Natal are successful it should drive third party publishers and consumers towards these consoles which should increase the life of the system; but if they fail it can hurt the relationship between the console manufacturers and third party publishers, while re-enforcing the Wii as the way to play good motion controlled games in the consumers mind.



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M.U.G.E.N said:
All of the things you mentioned + the strong 1st party titles Sony has coming out = Win imo...worst case scenario they may not have as big as sales as they wanted...but that's the WORST possible scenario if they put out crappy games...but I'm certain we will see some good first party titles for the Move as well ;) E3 can't come sooner

yea honestly if Killzone 3 gets motion controll support i m buying it.so sony can use their 1st 2nd party to push the Move



 

 

 

HappySqurriel said:

Back in the day Sega fans could have probably argued that the Sega CD and/or Sega 32X would increase the life of the Sega Genesis ...

If the Playstation Move and Natal are successful it should drive third party publishers and consumers towards these consoles which should increase the life of the system; but if they fail it can hurt the relationship between the console manufacturers and third party publishers, while re-enforcing the Wii as the way to play good motion controlled games in the consumers mind.

Completely different. There is already a consumer fascination with motion controls of this type as proven by the wii. Regardless of how similar it resembles the concept of the Wii, there is really only one functional way to do it....just because nintendo did it first doesnt mean its time fo rother companies to throw in the towel, its time to build upon it which sony is doing.

With the 32x or sega CD there was no market there, there was no sega cd in retirement homes, no 32x in rehab fascilities, not 60 million of a similar concept WW still selling buttloads. So yeah, i understand youre desire to downplay and come in here to drop all the "peripherals" talk we all know since we are familiar with videogames, but honestly, its tiring and not even remotely comparible in this instance.

The public loves motion controls of this sort, that was never the case with the aforementioned peripherals, this is safe, Natal, no controls, unknown is unsafe since there is nothing like it in shops or peoples homes, this doesnt mean its going to resemble the Sega cd or 32x in sales or popularity, just its more of an unknown, less safe, and this thread is about safe options and logical discussions on why or how it could help the PS3's lifespan.



definately!



Yes, I agree with you.
PSMove could be a very good "move" for Sony, because it could help PS3 to increase its sales, maybe not a lot.



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steverhcp02 said:
HappySqurriel said:

Back in the day Sega fans could have probably argued that the Sega CD and/or Sega 32X would increase the life of the Sega Genesis ...

If the Playstation Move and Natal are successful it should drive third party publishers and consumers towards these consoles which should increase the life of the system; but if they fail it can hurt the relationship between the console manufacturers and third party publishers, while re-enforcing the Wii as the way to play good motion controlled games in the consumers mind.

Completely different. There is already a consumer fascination with motion controls of this type as proven by the wii. Regardless of how similar it resembles the concept of the Wii, there is really only one functional way to do it....just because nintendo did it first doesnt mean its time fo rother companies to throw in the towel, its time to build upon it which sony is doing.

With the 32x or sega CD there was no market there, there was no sega cd in retirement homes, no 32x in rehab fascilities, not 60 million of a similar concept WW still selling buttloads. So yeah, i understand youre desire to downplay and come in here to drop all the "peripherals" talk we all know since we are familiar with videogames, but honestly, its tiring and not even remotely comparible in this instance.

The public loves motion controls of this sort, that was never the case with the aforementioned peripherals, this is safe, Natal, no controls, unknown is unsafe since there is nothing like it in shops or peoples homes, this doesnt mean its going to resemble the Sega cd or 32x in sales or popularity, just its more of an unknown, less safe, and this thread is about safe options and logical discussions on why or how it could help the PS3's lifespan.

Just because one company is successful with a product, and there is a large established market for it, does not mean that there success will translate to a similar product made by a different company. Look at the entire product line of Apple, every product they make has countless clones from large companies that are all (roughly) as good as what Apple is producing (and all these products have similar levels of marketing) and yet Apple continues to dominate the market. Why is it that everyone asks for an iPod Touch or an iPhone and so few people ask for a Zune?



HappySqurriel said:
steverhcp02 said:
HappySqurriel said:

Back in the day Sega fans could have probably argued that the Sega CD and/or Sega 32X would increase the life of the Sega Genesis ...

If the Playstation Move and Natal are successful it should drive third party publishers and consumers towards these consoles which should increase the life of the system; but if they fail it can hurt the relationship between the console manufacturers and third party publishers, while re-enforcing the Wii as the way to play good motion controlled games in the consumers mind.

Completely different. There is already a consumer fascination with motion controls of this type as proven by the wii. Regardless of how similar it resembles the concept of the Wii, there is really only one functional way to do it....just because nintendo did it first doesnt mean its time fo rother companies to throw in the towel, its time to build upon it which sony is doing.

With the 32x or sega CD there was no market there, there was no sega cd in retirement homes, no 32x in rehab fascilities, not 60 million of a similar concept WW still selling buttloads. So yeah, i understand youre desire to downplay and come in here to drop all the "peripherals" talk we all know since we are familiar with videogames, but honestly, its tiring and not even remotely comparible in this instance.

The public loves motion controls of this sort, that was never the case with the aforementioned peripherals, this is safe, Natal, no controls, unknown is unsafe since there is nothing like it in shops or peoples homes, this doesnt mean its going to resemble the Sega cd or 32x in sales or popularity, just its more of an unknown, less safe, and this thread is about safe options and logical discussions on why or how it could help the PS3's lifespan.

Just because one company is successful with a product, and there is a large established market for it, does not mean that there success will translate to a similar product made by a different company. Look at the entire product line of Apple, every product they make has countless clones from large companies that are all (roughly) as good as what Apple is producing (and all these products have similar levels of marketing) and yet Apple continues to dominate the market. Why is it that everyone asks for an iPod Touch or an iPhone and so few people ask for a Zune?

I think you can go about it the other way as well....Zen was there before Ipod and Apple came in and utlized on that market and made a huge profit....who knows...SOny might be APple in this case in the future :) And again if they do this well, they will have their usual games for the core gamers who like UC2, KZ2, MGS4 etc PLUS good games for casual gamers...I don't see them 'losing' any current fans..



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HappySqurriel said:
steverhcp02 said:
HappySqurriel said:

Back in the day Sega fans could have probably argued that the Sega CD and/or Sega 32X would increase the life of the Sega Genesis ...

If the Playstation Move and Natal are successful it should drive third party publishers and consumers towards these consoles which should increase the life of the system; but if they fail it can hurt the relationship between the console manufacturers and third party publishers, while re-enforcing the Wii as the way to play good motion controlled games in the consumers mind.

Completely different. There is already a consumer fascination with motion controls of this type as proven by the wii. Regardless of how similar it resembles the concept of the Wii, there is really only one functional way to do it....just because nintendo did it first doesnt mean its time fo rother companies to throw in the towel, its time to build upon it which sony is doing.

With the 32x or sega CD there was no market there, there was no sega cd in retirement homes, no 32x in rehab fascilities, not 60 million of a similar concept WW still selling buttloads. So yeah, i understand youre desire to downplay and come in here to drop all the "peripherals" talk we all know since we are familiar with videogames, but honestly, its tiring and not even remotely comparible in this instance.

The public loves motion controls of this sort, that was never the case with the aforementioned peripherals, this is safe, Natal, no controls, unknown is unsafe since there is nothing like it in shops or peoples homes, this doesnt mean its going to resemble the Sega cd or 32x in sales or popularity, just its more of an unknown, less safe, and this thread is about safe options and logical discussions on why or how it could help the PS3's lifespan.

Just because one company is successful with a product, and there is a large established market for it, does not mean that there success will translate to a similar product made by a different company. Look at the entire product line of Apple, every product they make has countless clones from large companies that are all (roughly) as good as what Apple is producing (and all these products have similar levels of marketing) and yet Apple continues to dominate the market. Why is it that everyone asks for an iPod Touch or an iPhone and so few people ask for a Zune?

But just because Apple isnt dethroned it doesnt mean the other products are failures. If people own a zune and are happy, if it increases MSFT's ability to maintain profit in that division or offers longevity to the division it can be a business success. There are a lot of people that may buy a Sandisk mp3 player for travel, a less expensive version, the same as people with a PS3 whose girlfriends, like me, want EA active may spend the $100 for Move rather than a Wii. People with a Wii whose kids want a PS3 may feel more comfortable getting th ePS3 and experiencing what they would consider Wii sports in HD, or a "newer" version of the tech.

Theres a lot at work here and its not simply black and white.

You want to trivialize a complex discussion on safety of implementation. You say FAILURE = 32x add on. Failure Zune < Ipod. Whereas its not an absolute in that sense.

The thread and discussion was made based on safety of implementation, not overtaking wii/360 in sales and/or quality or even marketshare.



As far as PS Move, glass can be half full or half empty.

OPs glass is half full...



@ disolitude

I would say that my glass is simply...a half glass of information, as everyone's should be at this Alpha/Beta Stage that it is in. Why does it have to be half full or half empty....I say go with a half glass to keep the open mind, and when your mind's made up given all the information necessary to make an informed decision, you can call it empty or full.



Just waiting for that PS Vita to come out so I can play some full featured games on the go with that beautiful screen and control scheme...