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2 Facts....


GeoW3 and Halo Reacharound will sell like hell - Regardless how crap the games will be and they will be crap =)

Those games and nearly every other FPS will be always the same.
Halo never changed since Halo 1 and Gears of War 3 will probably only have more blood and gore.
The Fanbase in the USA loves their FPS....Quantity > Quality is there more important than anything else.


I say...

Halo Reacharound 15 million Lifetime and a lot new 5 year old fanboys who screams in Xboxlive and bash the other platforms as often they can because the 360 has 5 million FPSs with 2 different weapons.
Gears of War 3 10 Millions and a lot of new 5-12 year old fanboys who say the Characters are awesome/manly and RPG chars are gay because they can count to 3 and beyond.



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SubSenix said:

2 Facts....


GeoW3 and Halo Reacharound will sell like hell - Regardless how crap the games will be and they will be crap =)

Those games and nearly every other FPS will be always the same.
Halo never changed since Halo 1 and Gears of War 3 will probably only have more blood and gore.
The Fanbase in the USA loves their FPS....Quantity > Quality is there more important than anything else.


I say...

Halo Reacharound 15 million Lifetime and a lot new 5 year old fanboys who screams in Xboxlive and bash the other platforms as often they can because the 360 has 5 million FPSs with 2 different weapons.
Gears of War 3 10 Millions and a lot of new 5-12 year old fanboys who say the Characters are awesome/manly and RPG chars are gay because they can count to 3 and beyond.


I really like how you judge games that still haven't been released yet.

and seriously, these so called facts of yours are opinions not facts.



Discussion of gaming on the internet has really gone down the pooper.



I dont really get this...ODST didnt sell as well as Halo 3 because it was basically an expansion, you couldnt really count on everyone to have it to play online. Halo Wars was pretty clear about what it was (its actually my favorite Halo game), you could tell from just looking at the back of the box, plus every magazine article and every online reference explained what it was...if people felt duped its because they bought it blindly. This like blaming Final Fantasy X-2 for the games after Final Fantasy X selling over 2 million less each...I guess FF doesnt matter anymore either...

He's way off base with Gears 2, he is looking at current sales numbers and not accounting for the length of time its been out. Gears 2 has actually exceeded Gears 1 sales for the same time period by nearly 500,000.



Ahh, the ever-present fanboy blog playing down the largest HD exclusives this gen. No, Halo don't matter, neither does Gears, but ModNation Racers and Socom 4 are system sellers, because everyone who wants Halo Reach bought a 360 in 2008 for Halo Wars.



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this article is deeply failed in a way that's almost impossible to tell.

3 facts:
1)Halo ODST was a sort of expansion sold at the price of a full game and mainly aimed to online playing and still will suerly pass the 5M mark.
2)Halo Wars is among the best selling RTS on a console EVER (if not the best selling one).
3)GeoW 2 will surely pass the 6M mark.

conclusion of the self proclaimed journalist:
HAlo and GeoW are dooooooooomed

my conclusion:
give x360 a couple of additional franchieses doomed as Halo or GeoW and I bet that PS3 is doomed.




2008 year end sales (made in January 2008):

44.2 M 27.1 M 20.8 M

I can't believe we're having this sort of discussion, questioning if franchises that sells MILLIONS still matter. this is absurd lol



the words above were backed by NUCLEAR WEAPONS!

yes



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Grey21 said:
GeOW is big but it never reached the status of Halo. The original was one of the first games that people considered ''nextgen'' and it sort of revolutionized the third person shooter genre. But GeOW never had a wide appeal, it's the same with God of War, decent sales figures but not in comparison to the reviews it got. So does GeOW still matter? Sure to the same people it has always appealed to and GeOW3 will still sell 1-2 million easily.

Halo on the other hand is still very popular as a FPS. Even an overpriced expansion could sell many millions more then it deserved. I don't see any signs of Halo slowing down, which I think is strange because the universe isn't all that interesting anymore. I think Reach will decide to future of the series but right now Halo still matters.


Alright nothing personal but you're throwing words around as light heartedly as the fucking idiot who wrote that article which it still beats me how he has a job with such a non story superflous article. Gears 1 and 2 both sold 5 million plus! i don't know how those are 'decent' numbers. Those are stellar numbers! Take away about 5 ninty games and there's no more than 7 games above 5 million this gen, of which 5 out of 7 are from the COD and Halo franchises which have become cultural phenomenons. Make no mistake Gears is as huge as it seems. Again, no offense Grey21, it's just this guy was allowed to write such a thin ice story i fell off my chair and it seems like you're falling for his wordplay.

Now, in regards to the article, did this guy seriously as a game journalist take the performances of a console RTS and an expansion pack as his smoking gun for why halo is becoming a non issue?????!! Honestly, I think the editor deserves to be fired more so than the writer. This is about the third time in a month i  hear this exact same non sense, but this is the first time i hear it from the gaming media.

 The RTS genre is known as a niche genre no matter what platform it's on, but on a console 'niche' is an understatement. Nonetheless halo wars managed to become the best selling RTS ever. Epic Fail if you ask me, I expected it to sell 10 million +! Halo ODST was an expansion pack with some negative press and general grumbles from the gaming public before it even released because of it's price. If Halo ODST would have been priced at $40 it still wouldnt have sold above 6 million at best. However it was priced at $60 and almost sold 5 million! Can you imagine an EXPANSION PACK joins the ranks of the 5 million+ games of the 7th generation. ODST failed however in my view, because everyone knows expansion packs always outsell the Main storyline titles of a series...



What? They're obviously hugely important franchises still. To put it in a sales perspective if those games aren't big anymore than neither are ANY of the following

Killzone
Uncharted
Final Fantasy
LittleBigPlanet
Fable
Metal Gear Solid
Forza
Mass Effect
etc.

I could make this list go on and on. The OP is blatently dumb considering the newest entries in both Gears and Halo outsold all these HUGE franchises I listed.