pizzahut451 said: rpg70 said: the English are there own people. They alone stood up to Hitler while the whole of europe rolled over like a good dog. Being an American and serving with a few of Englands boys back in 1991 overseas, i can tell you the English are just better people than europeans. do you really know THAT little about WW2?

Yeah. He should have said Europe rolled over and the rest of the world closed their eyes hoping it would pass them by.

That's not fair. Europe didn't just roll over.

NJ5 said: pizzahut451 said: rpg70 said: the English are there own people. They alone stood up to Hitler while the whole of europe rolled over like a good dog. Being an American and serving with a few of Englands boys back in 1991 overseas, i can tell you the English are just better people than europeans. do you really know THAT little about WW2? Well... he is American. They haven't had an invasion for quite a while there (and probably won't for a long time, if ever), so I guess it's easier to ignore certain things.

But I mean ... look at the post.  It acts like France let itself get conquered just by lack of willpower, while the superior English refused to hand over their lunch money. 

It has to be a joke ... right? 

Lord Flashheart said: Kasz216 said: Lord Flashheart said: The UN say that "continent" can refer not only to a geographical continent, but it may also be defined on grounds of culture and politics, and Europe's culture and politics is undoubtedly different from Asia. Or as someone else said "because they made the first textbooks" I've already rebutted that point twice in the thread as to why Europe ISN'T culturally distinct from asia... to which nobody has offered a proper reply. If you were to divide Asia and Europe into two continents by culture... the Middle East and Indian areas would in fact be part of "Europe". Due to those nations being closer to Europe culturally then asia. When people make the cultural arguement... what they really mean is "White people live here! Non white people live in Asia!" It's an artificat of past racism. I was using that to show there are differing ways to judge what is a continent than what you're offering. I don't know what your way to judge a continent is. If we were to judge it culterally then I would have India and the Middle east seperat to asia and europe. Nice generalisation of what people mean by the way. Not racist from you at all.

You miss the point. If I tell my friend wetback is a term for "nice shirt" and then we go to spanish harlem and he starts calling everyone a wetback... while he means 'nice shirt" what he's really saying is a racial slur.

Lord Flashheart said: pizzahut451 said: rpg70 said: the English are there own people. They alone stood up to Hitler while the whole of europe rolled over like a good dog. Being an American and serving with a few of Englands boys back in 1991 overseas, i can tell you the English are just better people than europeans. do you really know THAT little about WW2? Yeah. He should have said Europe rolled over and the rest of the world closed their eyes hoping it would pass them by. That's not fair. Europe didn't just roll over.

I know it didnt, especially Russians

If someone says something but then you read something into it and claim racism when there is none then it is you who is racist and really seeing your own ignorance in their post.

pizzahut451 said: Lord Flashheart said: pizzahut451 said: rpg70 said: the English are there own people. They alone stood up to Hitler while the whole of europe rolled over like a good dog. Being an American and serving with a few of Englands boys back in 1991 overseas, i can tell you the English are just better people than europeans. do you really know THAT little about WW2? Yeah. He should have said Europe rolled over and the rest of the world closed their eyes hoping it would pass them by. That's not fair. Europe didn't just roll over. I know it didnt, especially Russians

Yeah. If they had been on our side from the start like promised then it likely wouldn't have happen. At least their turning was the biggest deciding moment. Wish they had done it sooner.

Well, not everyone rolled over.

"Car la France n'est pas seule! Elle n'est pas seule! Elle n'est pas seule! Elle a un vaste Empire derrière elle."

To say it with the words of Charles de Gaulle.

Shouldn't someone declare Godwins Law by now?

^ u just did. And you made me laugh xD

Final-Fan said: Kasz216 said: Lord Flashheart said: The UN say that "continent" can refer not only to a geographical continent, but it may also be defined on grounds of culture and politics, and Europe's culture and politics is undoubtedly different from Asia. Or as someone else said "because they made the first textbooks" I've already rebutted that point twice in the thread as to why Europe ISN'T culturally distinct from asia... to which nobody has offered a proper reply. If you were to divide Asia and Europe into two continents by culture... the Middle East and Indian areas would in fact be part of "Europe". Due to those nations being closer to Europe culturally then asia. When people make the cultural arguement... what they really mean is "White people live here! Non white people live in Asia!" It's an artificat of past racism. Isn't it true that, although people often think of Asia as "entire Eurasian supercontinent minus Europe", if you actually ask them about it they'll consider India and the Middle East separate entites from "Asia"?  IMO that both supports your point and undercuts your position.  At the very least wouldn't you agree that when you say "part of Europe" you mean that only if forced to choose between "it's Europe" and "it's Asia"?  BTW I think this whole culture argument is a big mess you might well be underestimating; well, the Middle East is probably closer to Europe, but India ... I dunno, it's pretty different from both IMO.

I don't see how that actually undercuts my point. Even if they were saw as seperate entities they aren't seen as continents... when their claim is stronger because geographically... at least they are sub continents while Europe is nothing more then a pennisula... even England itself would have more of a claim to continent then England would... due to it not being connected to mainland europe by land. This does bring me around to my central point though that people missed in their rage over geographical and geological fact. Europe as a continent was created out of europeon vanity on sketchy scientific terms... the same is true for the UK not being part of europe. If your going to use subjective measures in place of scientific measures... you can't rightfully say the UK is part of europe since continents then become something simply a matter of opinion... meaningless designations to vaguely define cultural and poltical situations when there already exist better terms for it since terms like this still combine countries like Slovenia with England.