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AlkamistStar on 09 March 2010

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FranTic91 on 09 March 2010
Wonktonodi said:
FranTic91 said:
 

How could you make such a blantanly incorrect post regarding sales on V G CHARTS.

There's a freaking search bar RIGHT there in the upper right corner!!!!

In fact, the only JRPG I can see here to sell over 1 million on one console was FFXIII.

Not only does the 360 have MORE RPGs than the PS3 does, but the 360 exclusive RPGs sell better consistently.

PS3:

Demon Souls 680k

Valkyria Chronicles 850k

White Knight 510k

Folklore 200k

Disgaea 230k

360:

Lost Odyssey: 830k

Last Remnant: 620k

Magna Carta: 210k

Infinite Undiscovery: 570k

Blue Dragon: 530k

 

And multiplatform releases tend to do better as well...

am I missing something but you didn't put them in the order they sold VC is at 850k more than any on 360

demon's souls 680k more than all but lost odyssey and white night is a new one that will grow over the 510k so I don't think it's consistently better on the 360 as you think.

I assumed that anyone who has the ability to join a forum website and make a post has the intelligence to put numbers in descending order.

Plus I'm talking consistency. Magna Carta is the only game I listed that nears 200k, even so it has a more steady drop to 200k. Of course there are 360 JRPGs that drop below 200k, I was only listing the exclusives that I felt were a bit more significant than the others on both sides.

 



FranTic91 on 09 March 2010
Icyedge said:
FranTic91 said:
SuperiorX99 said:
 

 

 

How could you make such a blantanly incorrect post regarding sales on V G CHARTS.

There's a freaking search bar RIGHT there in the upper right corner!!!!

In fact, the only JRPG I can see here to sell over 1 million on one console was FFXIII.

Not only does the 360 have MORE RPGs than the PS3 does, but the 360 exclusive RPGs sell better consistently.

PS3:

Demon Souls 680k

Valkyria Chronicles 850k

White Knight 510k

Folklore 200k

Disgaea 230k

360:

Lost Odyssey: 830k

Last Remnant: 620k

Magna Carta: 210k

Infinite Undiscovery: 570k

Blue Dragon: 530k

 

And multiplatform releases tend to do better as well...

Are you talking 2 years ago? lol

Demon Souls: 2009

Valkyria Chronicles 2008

White Knight 2010 (however it release in Japan in '08)

Folklore 200k 2007

Disgaea 230k 2008

360:

Lost Odyssey:  2008

Last Remnant: 2008

Magna Carta: 2009

Infinite Undiscovery: 2008

Blue Dragon: 2007

 

3 '08s 1 '09 and 1 '07 for each.

 



Tanstalas on 09 March 2010


I had something witty to say on the above post but then I realized I was wrong



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fdo69 on 10 March 2010

I played it the game today it's a good game but for some reason it doesn't feel like final fantasy.



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BMaker11 on 10 March 2010
perpride said:
chenguo4 said:
SaviorX said:
perpride said:
keeping the game as a PS3 exclusive would be a RETARDED move on Square's part IMO.

Why? Sony is nowhere near the position they were the last two generations. With PS1 and PS2, Sony dominated the market. Their consoles were like the Wii of this generation. This generation, however, PS3 ended up being a HUGE disappointment compared to its predecessors. And I don't mean just hardware sales. Software sales for many PS3 games are extremely disappointing imo.

Square keeping Final Fantasy XIII exclusive would virtually outcast the 38 million people who own Xbox 360's around the world. Bringing the game to 360 was an AMAZING decision because it more than doubles the number of people who have access to playing the game. Which do you think Square cares more for? Stupid biased reviews bringing their game down to an 83/8.3 on game rankings/meta critic, or the possibility of selling millions more? We all know critics and reviewers have been putting down JRPG's recently anyways.

When all is said and done, Final Fantasy XIII 360 should be a million seller by itself. This enough warrants the fact that Square brought it over. I for one am proud of them, and the game has not only met my expectations, it has shattered them in every way possible. It easily ranks in the top 5 games of the series, third only to Final Fantasy VII and XII. It is now my second favorite game this generation, only behind MGS4.

It is funny you say that...I have heard many times before that porting a game to another console for the sake of 1-1.5 million copies is not worth it.

 

Not to mention you're also assuming htose 38 mil 360 owners dont overlap with the 32.5 mil ps3 owners. If the game was ps3 exclusive, they honestly wouldn't be losing that many sales, consdering 1) this overlap and 2) how many people would buy a console for FF13.

 

And back on topic of the scores. It's a fantastic game and I don't see how it's any more linear than FFX, which got amazing reviews. I think the thing that bugs reviewers the most is that there are no towns, and that takes a lot out of an RPG experience, and unnecessarily speeds up the pacing quite a bit.

could you guys please explain what makes you more qualified than Square Enix to make such statements? It's their game, if they decided to go multiplatform, I believe their reason is damn good.

Keeping Mass Effect 2 exclusive to the Xbox 360 IS a RETARDED move by Bioware. They own the IP and can do whatever they want with it, but they're ignoring 32.5M potential customers. A PS3 version would probably be a million seller. 

Now, using your logic, is Bioware's decision a "damn good" one?



big_boss on 10 March 2010
fdo69 said:
I played it the game today it's a good game but for some reason it doesn't feel like final fantasy.

Bingo! I felt the same way when I played it. Its just isn't Final Fantasy. Exploring secret places not found on the world map where extremely hard monsters were hiding or where rare but powerful items were found. What made some of the past Final Fantasy's great was the character's didn't talk but now they sound like rejects who can't act.

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FranTic91 on 10 March 2010
BMaker11 said:
perpride said:
chenguo4 said:
SaviorX said:
perpride said:
keeping the game as a PS3 exclusive would be a RETARDED move on Square's part IMO.

Why? Sony is nowhere near the position they were the last two generations. With PS1 and PS2, Sony dominated the market. Their consoles were like the Wii of this generation. This generation, however, PS3 ended up being a HUGE disappointment compared to its predecessors. And I don't mean just hardware sales. Software sales for many PS3 games are extremely disappointing imo.

Square keeping Final Fantasy XIII exclusive would virtually outcast the 38 million people who own Xbox 360's around the world. Bringing the game to 360 was an AMAZING decision because it more than doubles the number of people who have access to playing the game. Which do you think Square cares more for? Stupid biased reviews bringing their game down to an 83/8.3 on game rankings/meta critic, or the possibility of selling millions more? We all know critics and reviewers have been putting down JRPG's recently anyways.

When all is said and done, Final Fantasy XIII 360 should be a million seller by itself. This enough warrants the fact that Square brought it over. I for one am proud of them, and the game has not only met my expectations, it has shattered them in every way possible. It easily ranks in the top 5 games of the series, third only to Final Fantasy VII and XII. It is now my second favorite game this generation, only behind MGS4.

It is funny you say that...I have heard many times before that porting a game to another console for the sake of 1-1.5 million copies is not worth it.

 

Not to mention you're also assuming htose 38 mil 360 owners dont overlap with the 32.5 mil ps3 owners. If the game was ps3 exclusive, they honestly wouldn't be losing that many sales, consdering 1) this overlap and 2) how many people would buy a console for FF13.

 

And back on topic of the scores. It's a fantastic game and I don't see how it's any more linear than FFX, which got amazing reviews. I think the thing that bugs reviewers the most is that there are no towns, and that takes a lot out of an RPG experience, and unnecessarily speeds up the pacing quite a bit.

could you guys please explain what makes you more qualified than Square Enix to make such statements? It's their game, if they decided to go multiplatform, I believe their reason is damn good.

Keeping Mass Effect 2 exclusive to the Xbox 360 IS a RETARDED move by Bioware. They own the IP and can do whatever they want with it, but they're ignoring 32.5M potential customers. A PS3 version would probably be a million seller. 

Now, using your logic, is Bioware's decision a "damn good" one?

Completely different; Mass Effect's audience was never PS2 owners.



Lurker on 10 March 2010

It'd be pretty much the same linear dumbed down game without 360, just with more content.



perpride on 10 March 2010
BMaker11 said:
perpride said:
chenguo4 said:
SaviorX said:
perpride said:
keeping the game as a PS3 exclusive would be a RETARDED move on Square's part IMO.

Why? Sony is nowhere near the position they were the last two generations. With PS1 and PS2, Sony dominated the market. Their consoles were like the Wii of this generation. This generation, however, PS3 ended up being a HUGE disappointment compared to its predecessors. And I don't mean just hardware sales. Software sales for many PS3 games are extremely disappointing imo.

Square keeping Final Fantasy XIII exclusive would virtually outcast the 38 million people who own Xbox 360's around the world. Bringing the game to 360 was an AMAZING decision because it more than doubles the number of people who have access to playing the game. Which do you think Square cares more for? Stupid biased reviews bringing their game down to an 83/8.3 on game rankings/meta critic, or the possibility of selling millions more? We all know critics and reviewers have been putting down JRPG's recently anyways.

When all is said and done, Final Fantasy XIII 360 should be a million seller by itself. This enough warrants the fact that Square brought it over. I for one am proud of them, and the game has not only met my expectations, it has shattered them in every way possible. It easily ranks in the top 5 games of the series, third only to Final Fantasy VII and XII. It is now my second favorite game this generation, only behind MGS4.

It is funny you say that...I have heard many times before that porting a game to another console for the sake of 1-1.5 million copies is not worth it.

 

Not to mention you're also assuming htose 38 mil 360 owners dont overlap with the 32.5 mil ps3 owners. If the game was ps3 exclusive, they honestly wouldn't be losing that many sales, consdering 1) this overlap and 2) how many people would buy a console for FF13.

 

And back on topic of the scores. It's a fantastic game and I don't see how it's any more linear than FFX, which got amazing reviews. I think the thing that bugs reviewers the most is that there are no towns, and that takes a lot out of an RPG experience, and unnecessarily speeds up the pacing quite a bit.

could you guys please explain what makes you more qualified than Square Enix to make such statements? It's their game, if they decided to go multiplatform, I believe their reason is damn good.

Keeping Mass Effect 2 exclusive to the Xbox 360 IS a RETARDED move by Bioware. They own the IP and can do whatever they want with it, but they're ignoring 32.5M potential customers. A PS3 version would probably be a million seller. 

Now, using your logic, is Bioware's decision a "damn good" one?

I think Bioware is taking a completely different approach than Square Enix, and I can respect that. If they believe their game will do better as an exclusive, so be it. But they already used my logic which is why you see the game appearing on PC. And I'm almost certain that they have some sort of exclucivity deal or they would bring Mass Effect over to PS3. Either way, if there's one thing this generation has proved to us, it's that going multiplatform is a good idea  (ie., Resident Evil 5, Devil May Cry 4, etc.,)