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Poll: Which HD console will reach 15m in Others first?

PS3 77 41.40%
 
Xbox 360 80 43.01%
 
Its gonna be close 29 15.59%
 
Total:186

nightsurge, do you think that if MS cuts the price of the 360 again this year, the 'Others' region will respond as well as they did back in 2008?...or do you think, taking into account the region (except the UK) seems to prefer the PS brand a bit more , it won´t have the same kind of impact?

I´m only talking about price cuts here, obviously there are other factors that´ll play a role (Natal, for example).



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CGI-Quality said:
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:
Grey21 said:
GOW may help the PS3 reach it sooner, not that that matters in any way. Without a system seller the 360 would reach it before the PS3, not that it matters in any way either.

I'm sure the PS3 will beat the 360 in others in the long run with atleast a few million, Europe has always been a Playstation zone and it is an important player in ''others''. But we shouldnt forget that what the 360 has already done there, compaied with the original xbox Microsoft is gaining a lot of ground.

Come to think of it we are in 2010 en 2005's console still has the lead over its technically more advanced sister that also has more brandpower.

Considering the PS3 came out in 2007 there, while the 360 came out in 2005 AND the PS3 has been selling at a fatser rate while being more expensive, I'd say it's performed well.

OT: The 360 will make it there first, but by month's end the PS3 will be in front in the region.

Eh, it can go either way.  PS3's made a great comeback on the slim, and has generally done pretty well with price reductions in Europe.  On the hand, you also have to consider exactly where the "PlayStation" and "Xbox" brands were at the start of this generation, and weigh that against how the 360 and PS3 have actually performed.  "Performed well" is very much an open question for PS3 imo.

PS3 hasn't performed well for a PlayStation, not even close when looking at it's predecessors. But when sized up against the 360, and all of the drawbacks the PS3 had due to Sony's early negligence, it has performed well.

Make sense?

Sure, but that's throwing a lot of qualifications in.  I mean, I'd also say 360's "performed well" considering the hurdles it hand in terms of brand identity, pricepoint, failure rate, lack of exclusives, lack of regional management, etc.

In way, I don't think it should come as a surprise if PS3 comes in second in Europe overall.  It should more be expected (or depending on perspective, 1st should've been expected even), the only real surprise would be if 360 squeaked by in end and stole it.



jarrod, if the PS3 had been released at $300 (dunno if it´d still have Blu-Ray, Cell, etc...but it was released at $300), do you think it´d be hovering around the 40 million mark by now?



JGarret said:
nightsurge, do you think that if MS cuts the price of the 360 again this year, the 'Others' region will respond as well as they did back in 2008?...or do you think, taking into account the region (except the UK) seems to prefer the PS brand a bit more , it won´t have the same kind of impact?

I´m only talking about price cuts here, obviously there are other factors that´ll play a role (Natal, for example).

Others = / = Europe

Microsoft also leads in Australia and some other smaller markets.



Just a quick reminder that I created this poll because I wanted to know what people think about the idea whether the PS3 or 360 would reach the 15m milestone first in Others. I encourage healthy discussions along with personal opinions and statements, but not to the extend that we are upsetting anyone.



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CGI.. back in 2007, did you think there was a good possibility the PS3 would just have tanked and died for good?

It´d have been really unbelievable....."successor to the most successful system of all time doesn´t make it past its first year"...it´d have been quite weird.



Last time i checked PS3 was leading the 360 in other in late January!

Whats happened??!?!?!?



CGI-Quality said:
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:
Grey21 said:
GOW may help the PS3 reach it sooner, not that that matters in any way. Without a system seller the 360 would reach it before the PS3, not that it matters in any way either.

I'm sure the PS3 will beat the 360 in others in the long run with atleast a few million, Europe has always been a Playstation zone and it is an important player in ''others''. But we shouldnt forget that what the 360 has already done there, compaied with the original xbox Microsoft is gaining a lot of ground.

Come to think of it we are in 2010 en 2005's console still has the lead over its technically more advanced sister that also has more brandpower.

Considering the PS3 came out in 2007 there, while the 360 came out in 2005 AND the PS3 has been selling at a fatser rate while being more expensive, I'd say it's performed well.

OT: The 360 will make it there first, but by month's end the PS3 will be in front in the region.

Eh, it can go either way.  PS3's made a great comeback on the slim, and has generally done pretty well with price reductions in Europe.  On the hand, you also have to consider exactly where the "PlayStation" and "Xbox" brands were at the start of this generation, and weigh that against how the 360 and PS3 have actually performed.  "Performed well" is very much an open question for PS3 imo.

PS3 hasn't performed well for a PlayStation, not even close when looking at it's predecessors. But when sized up against the 360, and all of the drawbacks the PS3 had due to Sony's early negligence, it has performed well.

Make sense?

Sure, but that's throwing a lot of qualifications in.  I mean, I'd also say 360's "performed well" considering the hurdles it hand in terms of brand identity, pricepoint, failure rate, lack of exclusives, lack of regional management, etc.

In way, I don't think it should come as a surprise if PS3 comes in second in Europe overall.  It should more be expected (or depending on perspective, 1st should've been expected even), the only real surprise would be if 360 squeaked by in end and stole it.

Oh, I'm not saying the 360 has performed poorly, in fact it's done better than anyone could have imagined, especially in 2005. But the PS3 could have totally tanked if things didn't change, and quickly. They did, now it's at least moving up and doing well. When I say 'well', I don't mean exceptional, I mean just that, a simple 'well'.

Now if it soemhow explodes after another price-cut, Arc or GT5 in Europe, THEN it's done exceptional. But for the most part, I agree. I just don't think either accomplishmet should be scoffed at and that's the impression I got from Grey21.

I sort of agree with all that actually.  It also just feels like PS3's stumbles bely the sort of overwhelming brand strength PlayStation had, and still has to some degree.  Old favorites die hard.  I mean hell, the UK still loves Sonic and Sega, while they've been a joke for generations now market wise.

I tend to think Arc will actually go over much better in Japan and Europe than America.  I think it could help revive the Minna no/Hot Shots sports games too actually (which did better on PS1/PS2 in JP/EU anyway).  GT5's going to be absolutely huge in Europe, but I sort of figure Sony pushed it back to help PS3 in leu of a fall pricedrop.  I sort of see GT5 as more of a "holding the fort" sort of effect for them, rather than really pushing hardware above and beyond competitively.



ChrisIsNotSexy said:
nightsurge said:
ChrisIsNotSexy said:
nightsurge said:
ChrisIsNotSexy said:
nightsurge said:
Jansky8 said:
Xbox 360, I guess, but PS3 will soon take the lead and never look back. In Others that is.

And only until the Fall when Microsoft finally counters the PS3 redesign/price cut, that is.

Dont think so buddy,360 had a 1year headstart,and its gonna lose,face it.

Some people are so short sighted and unimaginative.  It really does sadden me to see this.

Saddens me to see u replied

I know right?  Im wasting my time on someone who would never understand what I am saying no matter how hard I tried because they cannot get over some stupid and childish console war.

I'm not a Sony fanboy,i have a PS3,so that probably made u think im a Sony fanboy,which is typical.Im not in any console war,and i advise you to read ur post again,and think again whos not getting over some stupid and childish console war.

I have the right to say my oppinion,and logic tells me PS3 will win in Europe.

If you have something against that,then u truly cant get over some stupid and childish console war.

I have nothing wrong with opinions at all, my friend.  It was your immature tone and your lack of the actual words "IMO" that made you sound like you were speaking in absolutes and came off as quite biased.



Well after 112 votes until now, the 360 is enjoying a slim lead over the PS3 though it is fairly evenly split. I guess we will just have to wait and see the impact of new software releases on the HW sales.



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