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Torillian on 03 March 2010
selnor said:
psrock said:
selnor said:
psrock said:
selnor said:
psrock said:
You agree with the article Selnor?


Um hell yeah. I posted my very own article about the Unreal Engine Effect about 5 days ago. Funny how previews of Alan Wake start coming and they basically say what I said. In fact for years I have said the 360 could easily do anything the PS3 can if it had specially designed engines.

You agree that there is nothing on the 360 right now that can compete with the PS3 games until Alan Wake comes, right?

There's only one issue.

Personally, like some reviewers to. Mass Effect 2 was at the front. Or at least on par with PS3. Maybe not technically speaking, but however Bioware achieved it they made it look the best. But Wake looks another level. Hell they use Crysis in the comparison. It's now a case of U2, KZ2 Crysis competeing with AW. Something tells me Alan Wake will get the graphics of the Year awards this year.

Where you here last week? Because we were talking about a small game that looks destroyed Uncharted 2 in visuals, just killed it. I hope Alan can beat 2009 best, but we are in 2010 now, there are new games to deal with, check out march 16th.

Gamersyde have previewed GOW3. They didnt mention GOW3 alongside U2, KZ2 and Crysis. So obviously they dont think it's in that league overall.

Are you sure on that?

http://gamersyde.com/game_1708_en.html

For comparison here's Alan Wake's page

http://gamersyde.com/game_759_en.html

 



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Euphoria14 on 03 March 2010

@Selnor

Could you link me to the Gamersyde preview of God of War 3?

I have been checking the side ever since you mentioned it and they only have pictures and videos. I can't locate a preview what so ever.



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selnor on 03 March 2010
Torillian said:
selnor said:
psrock said:
selnor said:
psrock said:
selnor said:
psrock said:
You agree with the article Selnor?


Um hell yeah. I posted my very own article about the Unreal Engine Effect about 5 days ago. Funny how previews of Alan Wake start coming and they basically say what I said. In fact for years I have said the 360 could easily do anything the PS3 can if it had specially designed engines.

You agree that there is nothing on the 360 right now that can compete with the PS3 games until Alan Wake comes, right?

There's only one issue.

Personally, like some reviewers to. Mass Effect 2 was at the front. Or at least on par with PS3. Maybe not technically speaking, but however Bioware achieved it they made it look the best. But Wake looks another level. Hell they use Crysis in the comparison. It's now a case of U2, KZ2 Crysis competeing with AW. Something tells me Alan Wake will get the graphics of the Year awards this year.

Where you here last week? Because we were talking about a small game that looks destroyed Uncharted 2 in visuals, just killed it. I hope Alan can beat 2009 best, but we are in 2010 now, there are new games to deal with, check out march 16th.

Gamersyde have previewed GOW3. They didnt mention GOW3 alongside U2, KZ2 and Crysis. So obviously they dont think it's in that league overall.

Are you sure on that?

http://gamersyde.com/game_1708_en.html

For comparison here's Alan Wake's page

http://gamersyde.com/game_759_en.html

 

In February the same guy that went to AW playthrough, went to the GOW3 one. However if I remeber rightly it didnt get a main page article, but a Forum article.



ethomaz on 03 March 2010
selnor said:
Gamersyde have previewed GOW3. They didnt mention GOW3 alongside U2, KZ2 and Crysis. So obviously they dont think it's in that league overall.

Where? There is no preview of God of War III at Gamersyde.



radiantshadow92 on 03 March 2010
selnor said:
CGI-Quality said:
selnor said:
psrock said:
selnor said:
psrock said:
selnor said:
psrock said:
You agree with the article Selnor?


Um hell yeah. I posted my very own article about the Unreal Engine Effect about 5 days ago. Funny how previews of Alan Wake start coming and they basically say what I said. In fact for years I have said the 360 could easily do anything the PS3 can if it had specially designed engines.

You agree that there is nothing on the 360 right now that can compete with the PS3 games until Alan Wake comes, right?

There's only one issue.

Personally, like some reviewers to. Mass Effect 2 was at the front. Or at least on par with PS3. Maybe not technically speaking, but however Bioware achieved it they made it look the best. But Wake looks another level. Hell they use Crysis in the comparison. It's now a case of U2, KZ2 Crysis competeing with AW. Something tells me Alan Wake will get the graphics of the Year awards this year.

Where you here last week? Because we were talking about a small game that looks destroyed Uncharted 2 in visuals, just killed it. I hope Alan can beat 2009 best, but we are in 2010 now, there are new games to deal with, check out march 16th.

Gamersyde have previewed GOW3. They didnt mention GOW3 alongside U2, KZ2 and Crysis. So obviously they dont think it's in that league overall.

Really, go check out what IGN said.

Either way, Alan Wake will deliver, I just don't see it topping God of War III in reviews for visuals.
I guess we will see. ;)GOW3 is also smaller in scale. levels are smaller for a start, not as hugely open. Of course I havent played it to say for sure, but if my copies of GOW1 and 2 and general hacknslash gaming has showed me, this genre will always be that way.

wait wait....you are saying that gow3 is small in scale?



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Attoyou on 03 March 2010

Alan wake Does Look Amazing, but i don't Really think its just the visuals that PS3 exclusives have been topping 360 Games on , its also how much is happening on the Screen, And From what i have seen, Not all that much is going on In Alan Wake, IMO God of war 3 beats Alan Wake in Both.



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selnor on 03 March 2010
Euphoria14 said:
@Selnor

Could you link me to the Gamersyde preview of God of War 3?

I have been checking the side ever since you mentioned it and they only have pictures and videos. I can't locate a preview what so ever.

See above. If yu know Gamersyde, they often dont put all the previews on main page articles. Why I dont know. They are a smaller site than say GameTrailers, but they have a much better community.



theprof00 on 03 March 2010
selnor said:
theprof00 said:
While I agree that the game looks beautiful, it's not without its limitations.
About the comment about how there should be more games displaying this kind of mastery, it's hard to frame a game the way they did with AW.
When you're going for a high level of graphic detail, you need to make compromises. Such as heaving the game take place in very dark areas, fog, and limited environment. It's like Super Mario Galaxy. To reach that level of graphic detail, they had to break the worlds up into manageable pieces.
However, both environments work really well within the context of the game, and it's nigh imperceptible that it's been segmented.
My point is, it's very difficult to come up with a very convincing level of segmentation without ruining the atmosphere and context. It isn't like you can just remove all trees and call it an alien world with no trees. You need something concrete.
Alan Wake does an amazing job of conveying the scope perfectly,....just don't expect it to be like that for every game.


They also mention huge levels. And the game has daytime to. So I'm guessing the scope is big in this game. Not confined and limited environment as you may suggest.

I'm just going by the videos I've seen so far. The daytime ones I've seen have virtually no processing going on beside graphics. The NPCs were stationary, and most of the environment was far enough away that they didn't have to rendered completely.

I've also noticed that some areas of the game take place on crags...platforms or ravines, which really decrease the amount of things onscreen at any one time. I'm not saying it's bad in the slightest. If you've read my previous post, I'm not ragging on the game but rather suggesting why you don't see such technical prowess being displayed more regularly.



psrock on 03 March 2010
selnor said:
Euphoria14 said:
@Selnor

Could you link me to the Gamersyde preview of God of War 3?

I have been checking the side ever since you mentioned it and they only have pictures and videos. I can't locate a preview what so ever.

See above. If yu know Gamersyde, they often dont put all the previews on main page articles. Why I dont know. They are a smaller site than say GameTrailers, but they have a much better community.

The forum looks like it hasnt been used since 2008?

Do I have to Log in to find this preview of a huge game in the forum.



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BW_JP on 03 March 2010

I'd be happy if Selnor could admit that x360 games wont technically be as impressive as ps3 games but that developers who work hard can make an aesthetically pleasing game that is equal or better. Its the technical part that ps3 can and always will out do.

AW wont win graphics of the year though, GoW3 will.