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Worst game ever? No way. It's actually my second favorite PS1 game. (proudly emulated ^_^ )

It's still FAR away from Chrono Trigger. Not on the same league. Not even 1/30th of its predecessor.



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Rafux said:
PhoenixKing said:
Rafux said:
PhoenixKing said:
Rafux said:
Aaaaaa Chrono Cross... I love that game, this thread bring back good memories. In my opinion CC is better than Trigger.

 

Look dude, it's better to just accept the facts and stop denying reality. Chrono Cross was the worst game ever created in all of human history. The facts simply speak for themselves. 


Anyway, I guess I'll add more since Chrono Cross is absolutely the worst game ever made in all of history. It simply cannot be denied. Heck, ET, the game that caused the infamous gaming crash is a superior game to Chrono Cross. 


The entire premise of Chrono Cross makes no sense. I don't just mean the lack of an actual goal or purpose throughout the entire story but how they marketed it. The back of the box claims that it's a sequel when the producer repeatedly said it wasn't a sequel despite all the Chrono Trigger references, rehashes of CT's subplots into less interesting and outright stupid formats, and terrible tacked-on elements to try and make it more like CT. 
Overall, it was just a bad attempt at a sequel and the worst game to ever be created. 


Serge simply has no motivation and cannot express any feelings despite being called to it. This becomes damning to the point of gross stupidity as characters repeatedly ask for his opinion despite the fact that he can't give any response besides "..." in such scenes. 


Kid being a "daughter-clone" is just a laughably stupid explanation. It doesn't even make sense and is inherently contradictory. She is either a clone or she isn't. Furthermore, it's pretty sad how forceful they are in making her a mary-sue and appear blameless in every horrific action that she takes. From wanting to kill you to thievery and hell, she's probably a prostitute considering the terrible and facepalm worthy backstory. They force her on you at every given instance and she's technically immortal with her self-reset powers. And really, after the poisoning and stabbing, it's obvious that none of the characters were really going to die and especially not the main heroine. Doing that would've been something interesting and engaging like FF7 and Chrono Cross is the opposite of everything fun. 


Some of the names were just stupid. Luccia is apparently a friend of Lucca's.... Here are two problems, Lucca was homeschooled by her father as no such university of learning ever existed in Chrono Trigger and no such thing exists in Chrono Cross because Viper's academy is for military training and not scientific learning. Even if it did, it couldn't have been the place they learned because El Nido Archipelago didn't even exist until after Chrono Trigger supposedly happened.


The letter Lucca gave Kid makes absolutely no sense. The first part is about how imperative it is that Lucca essentially writes her last will in testament in hopes that Kid understands the dangers. The latter half consists of a good luck and that she'll share important information with Kid later... despite the fact that this is suppose to be her last letter before her imminent death. 


The destruction of Guardia and deaths of the CT cast do not even make sense. Some warlord from some other timeline came to help the goofey idiot from the Antiquity era. Some warlord is more powerful than Lavos? Really? That doesn't even make sense. It isn't even elaborated upon further. Just something we're expected to believe. Furthermore, the darkness beyond time concept makes no sense. Why would people in the erased future want to come back when in CT they clearly expressed wanting to just die? Masato Kato obviously never had any real part of the story. I even doubt his claims of making the 600 AD era. I think he just robbed from Yuji Horii. It's no surprise that Chrono Cross came up with a concept that was ripped straight from Dragon Quest 6.  


I just wanted to let you know that I didn't read any of that, I won't change your mind and you won't change mine, let's move on.



You didn't read it because I'm 100% right. 


I love your meltdown.


What meltdown? You can't argue because I'm right. 



morenoingrato said:
Worst game ever? No way. It's actually my second favorite PS1 game. (proudly emulated ^_^ )

It's still FAR away from Chrono Trigger. Not on the same league. Not even 1/30th of its predecessor.


Replay it. You're judging from childhood nostalgia. 



blublibla said:

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Holy necrobump, batman!

CC is still one of my favorite PS1 games ever, I enjoyed playing it so much, I would recommend it to everyone




Chrono Cross is not a good game, I agree. But I've played far worse RPGs with horrible stories and abysmal gameplay (Secret of the Stars for the SNES is my all-time favorite bad RPG), which make Chrono Cross seem pretty good by comparison.

Other popular PS1 RPGs that I dislike:
Parasite Eve 2 (the first was awesome, and the second had a crap story with some admittedly improved gameplay)
Dragon Quest VII (my third least-favorite game in the series, with the first and fourth being the absolute worst)



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I also hated Chrono Cross. It was nothing compared to Chrono Trigger.

However, I believe Fable 1 takes the honor for worst video game ever made. I hate Chrono Cross...but this game was an abomination.



Really? You think this is the worst game ever made? Really? Really?

Okay, feast your eyes on these and say that again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV7pWQIQL6o



Kyuu said:
Well I'll spend a few minutes to reply to some of your points now that nobody else did for some reason...

*Crono was just as dumb as Serge (disliked both for the lack of personality, I was never into that approach in which the player is supposed to embody the hero. It never worked for me.) But many people do like that, idk I guess they feel more involved in the game or something.

*Chrono Trigger is much more character focused than Chrono Cross due to the limited number (6-7 in CT compared to 45 for CC). The huge roster of characters inevitably weakens the story but it makes for a better and more varied gameplay and sidequest secrets. Harle, Kid, and Lynx were the only characters that were given enough focus in the game with the rest having script generators throughout most of the game, sadly. But it's understandable. Each character were still given their great moments in some parts throughout the game.

*Kid was brainwashed, programmed or something when she accompanied Dark Serge. I don't remember exactly but there was an explanation.

*Karsh didn't ask Serge to come with them so politely. You may want to play the game again. He changed his tone only when Kid jumped in to help. (if you bring Poshul in the party they'd get her kicked off the cliff! not so polite is it? XD)

*What you wrote about Kid and Riddel was pretty hilarious. It gives the impression that you're trying really really hard. Riddel was already feeling her father and his regime were getting corrupt and Kid whispered to her that she meant no harm and was forced to use her to make her escape and survive. Riddel is portrayed as a thoughtful lady, not the whiny bitch which you want her to be LOL.

Dimensions/Time-Shifting stories will never work perfectly, you can always come up with new questions and there would be quite a few unsolved puzzles, some of these puzzles are intentionally made by the writer to make you ponder, or to be solved later in a sequel. Others are pure accidents. Chrono Trigger had its own issues, Terminator had its issues. And Final Fantasy 8 is not worlds different either..

So the story is far from perfect, it has its flaws and plot-holes but it should be pretty expected. Though I think Chrono Cross' story tends to be much more complex than it should be. To improve your understanding you'll have to play it, AND Chrono Trigger multiple times. Yet some questions will remain unanswered, and more questions may arise.


These points are absolutely stupid. Crono wasn't an idiot. He was presented as a good kid and he fulfilled that role. Serge is presented as someone who can give dynamic responses and guess what? He fails because all he can give is "...".

Karsh is the police. It doesn't matter. You're suppose to follow the instructions of authority figures. Serge was in an area that was off-limits regardless. The police have every right to take down a wild animal that they suspect may attack them.

No, they were given no great moments. Just suspension of disbelief and plot stupidity. 

No, the explanation was that Kid 'forgot'. Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about due to not remembering very well.

Play Radiant Historia. No issues.

That's not complex, good sir. That's a godawful and stupid plot. It's pseudo-intellectual but it sure as hell isn't complex or interesting. Xenogears, FF9, and Drakenguard had complex plots. They had an underlying theme, of course (like any good game) but they were complex.

 

By contrast, most of Chrono Cross is left in the dark and even worse, you're given a wall of text instead of being shown the explanations. It's completely awful. The worst game ever in all of human history.