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Mendicate Bias said:
It probably won't sell as well as MW2 on the 360 but your reasons are horrible.

Looking at the sales of an RTS and an expansion that used the same engine as a 2 year old game and did not have its own multiplayer matchmaking system and saying that these two show that Halo is becoming a weaker brand is just plain wrong.

Thats like looking at the sales of GTA: Episodes of Liberty City and saying that the GTA brand is weakening because the expansion didn't sell 8 million. News just in, expansions don't sell as well as full games.

Looking at it in perspective though shows you how wrong you are about the Halo brand strength. Halo Wars is the best selling RTS on consoles of all time, ODST is probably the best selling expansion of all time (may be wrong on that one) and Halo 3 was the most played game on xbox live in 2007, 2008, 2009 and is currently the second most played game behind MW2. Does that sound like a weakening franchise to you?

The only reason Halo 3 is the second most played game on Xbox Live right now is because almost 11 million people own it. So many have it they can just sign in if they want to play a match. I'm talking about the sales brand, though. I can be wrong, but Halo: Reach is almost like ODST in that, even though it's a full fledge game this time around, it's still not a progression in the story, therefore NOT a true sequel. We already know about Reach, and that it all happened before the debut Halo game. There's not that much mystery in the story.



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i took a look at the sales history and i'll tend to agree with your conclusion, MW2 will probably sell more than halo reach. the halo franchise would have to go up in popularity by around 50% to keep on pace with MW2 with just seems to big of a gap to me. i wouldn't be surprised if reach goes on to out sell halo 3 though.

http://www.vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=All&game1=Halo+3+-+X360%5B6964%5D&reg2=All&game2=Call+of+Duty%3A+Modern+Warfare+2+-+X360%5B28848%5D&reg3=All&game3=&weeks=100



First you have to assume that Halo Reach will end up being the quality title that Bungie is accustomed to making. I'll give you two reasons why it could be much larger.

1.) Halo 3 came out when the user base was much smaller. When Reach comes out the user base will likely be about 3 times the size of Sept 07.

2.) If (and this is a big if) Natal re-energizes the 360 with casual gamers it could see massive growth from people who originally were interested in Halo but were not previuosly interested enough to buy an xbox to try it out.



Halo Reach will sell a lot. But as you I think it won't sell as much as a true sequel could. Also I think MW2 is a big competition, so i don't know if it can beat it.

And no, Halo 3 wasn't Halo's peak...Halo 4 will come someday and show this ;)



voty2000 said:
snyperdud said:
I think Halo's popularity/sales reached it's peak with Halo 3.

You can't tell if a game has reached its peak unless the next full fledge game of the series sells less. 

Edit:

On topic, I won't say that Halo reach will outsell MW2 since it's multiplat and a huge success, but I will say it will most likely surpass Halo 3 sales.  People aren't a dumb as many people think, just because it doens't say 4 doesn't mean people will look at it as an expansion or spinoff.  Microsoft will spend huge amounts of money advertising this game and looks like Bungie is adding new things to Reach.  I think people's unborn children will know about Halo Reach by the time it releases.

 And you can't tell that the next game will sell more.

Do you honestly think that Call of Duty's popularity won't have an effect on future Halo games sales? I'm willing to bet a ton of people will abandon Halo MP in favor of CoD's if they have'nt already.

It's possible that future games will outsell Halo 3. Sure. But my prediction is that Halo 3 will be the best selling in the series.



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who cares? apparently a few people really do. qué triste



It will probably sell more than MW2 on the 360, but not combined sales..



mexitalrish said:
who cares? apparently a few people really do. qué triste

Umm, this is a video game sales website, so of course we care.



CatFangs806 said:
mexitalrish said:
who cares? apparently a few people really do. qué triste

Umm, this is a video game sales website, so of course we care.

That's exactly what I was going to say. You can join GAF if you're not into sales.

 

OT: I agree.



Hey ODST is around 4 million, a real Halo should sell twice as much.



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