Natal is the new generation of the 360. They cannot make the hardware any better without charging 500$ again, and it will _not_ be better than the ps3, why split the userbase? They will not. It's stupid. You're thinking too narrowly. Look more broadly.

The 360 has it's foothole, its the lead HD console. In order to surpass the PS3 technically, it would need about 300$ more in hd, + R&D + paying sony for disc format.. why do that?

The 360 will further and further fall behind the ps3 in graphics tech, but will approach a more casual broader audience. Natal is really the start of the new 360 generation.

Think about it. Look at PC games? God of war 3 and uncharted 2 and killzone 2 are.. better than any game that came out for the pc except for crysis. Other games are just higher resolutions but the texture work is no where near as good.  

not true. but I work in the games industry as a tools developer. I know for a fact that as a programmer, I've heard absolutely nothing about new consoles and I'm developing for games that are coming out in 2 years, so.. ?

A) I have no reason to believe you.

B) Even believe you... it doesn't actually mean anything when it comes to sustaining your customer base... which is the issue. 

The things your talking about PS3 having right... are the exact things consumers have had no interest in and what held the system back. 

Additionally, look at the Ipod.  The Ipod is a downright crappy MP3 player compaired to many more superior Ipods... how's Ipods market share doing?

Being the innovator gives you HUGE advantages.  You don't hear the mainstream media talking about the PS3 arc and when it does come out... it will likely be seen as a copycat in all honesty... and will be playing catchup in terms of recognition and in terms of software.

I mean think about it.  The 360 was doing EVERYTHING right compaired to the PS2 when it came out... yet did that blow up past the PS2?

No, then you really expect the PS3 to blow past and steal sales from a system selling faster then the PS2?

i dont know if 25-30% is an accurate statement

I think this gen will be shorter than that (say ALL knew consoles will be out by 2014 at the latest), but i guess only time will tell

lol this guy man I tell ya,

think of it as his way of judging the quality of the playstation 3 of this generation................. more than hardcore division lmao.

it's not that:

what was the processor in the PS2 less than 400 Mhz, the first xbox less than 800 Mhz, Game Cube less than 500 Mhz,

the xbox360 and the PS3 are both multi-core with each core at 3.2 Ghz, there is quite the big gap between the system's of last generation than this generation.

look at new netbook's they run the N270 Core on some of the net book's that's ( 2 ) 1.6 GHz core's inside that N270, 

but yet there's netbook's that can run Fallout 3!

so would you say these game system's are more like Entertsinment PC's

or Like strictly a Game console?

that is what seperates this generation from the last the first XBOX started this along with Sony it's just now more inline toward the progression of an entetertainment PC for your living room with stat's that remain for the most part static enough that create's less of a headache when unlike PC's less dynamic hardware that you have to choose which of the level of hardware do you want to target with your software.

the core processor's on the machine's save for sme slight modification's will stay the same so you know what the hardware spec's your targeting less of a guess.

LOL at Tretton!
This gen started in 2005, we're in 2010.

So 5 years = 25% (according to Mr. Sony)
This gen would last 20 years total???? LOL

Funnt guy...
I want NEXT GENERATION NOW. Not in 15 years.

This generation should last for along time. Even if Nintendo decided to come out with a Wii 2, I think MSFT and Sony should just stay out with the HD consoles and not worry about releasing new ones yet.

he was talking about the PS3 being 3 years old in the market that's 30%

the xbox would be 40%

so next year there is gonna be a xbox720 with 3 halos,gta5,gears4,bioshock3 and cost 299?

not.even if it releases next year until it becomes cheap and mainstream and have alot of games its gonna take 2years.

so thats why the xbox is turning into a wii and the ps3 just now is 300.