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do nice guys finish last?

Yes the do. Be a man 17 39.53%
 
No. A nice guy is refreshing 6 13.95%
 
depends on money and what they look like 8 18.60%
 
What? this guy hasn't been banned yet? 12 27.91%
 
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trashleg on 24 February 2010
Esmoreit said:
I have a theory that the vast majority of women are still, subconsciously submissive to men in larger or smaller degrees. This means that as a man you should be dominant to a certain degree to tickle a ladies subconscious interests.

Mind you, being dominant doesn't mean that you should be a dick. It just means that you take control which, for the outside world might seem dickish. When you decide the restaurant openly or make a demand, it might trigger her actually into liking you while the rest of the world things you treat women like crap.

Mind you, that's merely part of it. You should still be a nice guy only in a different way then you are used to. Women like to be taken care off. Being protected. That might come off as old-fashioned but in general a woman feels intimacy or warmth when she crawls against you on the couch or wants your arm around her while walking. You create that essense in three ways:

1 - Most importantly: self-esteem and confidence. Sorcery was right in this. Self esteem radiates, and tells a woman that you know yourself and what you are good at.

2 - Dare to show initiative. Leadership is a great attractor and feeds into what I mentioned in the second paragraph. Probably has something to do with the alpha-ape etc.

3 - Make her feel safe. A nice guy seems like a push-over and doesn't make her feel safe. This has little to do with brawn (though it helps) but more how you act around her. Don't be possessive (shows lack of confidence) but do show that you are willing to back her up.

That all the tips I can give.

when i saw your wall of text, i prepared myself for some weird sexual shit, lol.

but surprisingly, i agree with all of this. i don't like assholes but i know that a lot of girls want to be "the one who changes him". me, i'd prefer a nice guy from the start. as long as i know where i stand and that he's genuine, then thats enough.

also, @CommonMan - your first post is exactly what i was thinking

 

all you nice guys out there, just don't be a push-over. "The very essence of romance is uncertainty" - from The Importance of Being Earnest. don't let a girl know that you're willing to do anything for her, even if you are. you don't have to compliment her all the time just in case she wants it. Be yourself, and be happy with yourself and then you'll meet someone when you aren't expecting it.

but dont become assholes, please.



Highwaystar101 said: trashleg said that if I didn't pay back the money she leant me, she would come round and break my legs... That's why people call her trashleg, because she trashes the legs of the people she loan sharks money to.
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Kamal on 24 February 2010
CommonMan said:
Kamal said:
Esmoreit said:
I have a theory that the vast majority of women are still, subconsciously submissive to men in larger or smaller degrees. This means that as a man you should be dominant to a certain degree to tickle a ladies subconscious interests.

Mind you, being dominant doesn't mean that you should be a dick. It just means that you take control which, for the outside world might seem dickish. When you decide the restaurant openly or make a demand, it might trigger her actually into liking you while the rest of the world things you treat women like crap.

Mind you, that's merely part of it. You should still be a nice guy only in a different way then you are used to. Women like to be taken care off. Being protected. That might come off as old-fashioned but in general a woman feels intimacy or warmth when she crawls against you on the couch or wants your arm around her while walking. You create that essense in three ways:

1 - Most importantly: self-esteem and confidence. Sorcery was right in this. Self esteem radiates, and tells a woman that you know yourself and what you are good at.

2 - Dare to show initiative. Leadership is a great attractor and feeds into what I mentioned in the second paragraph. Probably has something to do with the alpha-ape etc.

3 - Make her feel safe. A nice guy seems like a push-over and doesn't make her feel safe. This has little to do with brawn (though it helps) but more how you act around her. Don't be possessive (shows lack of confidence) but do show that you are willing to back her up.

That all the tips I can give.

I covered all this, still hasn't got me no where "." Have I been forsakened?

Depends, if your avatar is a picture of you, then you may just want to crank your expectations down a few notches.

Hey am a stud in real life, that's what my mum said ;P



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CommonMan on 24 February 2010
trashleg said:
Esmoreit said:
I have a theory that the vast majority of women are still, subconsciously submissive to men in larger or smaller degrees. This means that as a man you should be dominant to a certain degree to tickle a ladies subconscious interests.

Mind you, being dominant doesn't mean that you should be a dick. It just means that you take control which, for the outside world might seem dickish. When you decide the restaurant openly or make a demand, it might trigger her actually into liking you while the rest of the world things you treat women like crap.

Mind you, that's merely part of it. You should still be a nice guy only in a different way then you are used to. Women like to be taken care off. Being protected. That might come off as old-fashioned but in general a woman feels intimacy or warmth when she crawls against you on the couch or wants your arm around her while walking. You create that essense in three ways:

1 - Most importantly: self-esteem and confidence. Sorcery was right in this. Self esteem radiates, and tells a woman that you know yourself and what you are good at.

2 - Dare to show initiative. Leadership is a great attractor and feeds into what I mentioned in the second paragraph. Probably has something to do with the alpha-ape etc.

3 - Make her feel safe. A nice guy seems like a push-over and doesn't make her feel safe. This has little to do with brawn (though it helps) but more how you act around her. Don't be possessive (shows lack of confidence) but do show that you are willing to back her up.

That all the tips I can give.

when i saw your wall of text, i prepared myself for some weird sexual shit, lol.

but surprisingly, i agree with all of this. i don't like assholes but i know that a lot of girls want to be "the one who changes him". me, i'd prefer a nice guy from the start. as long as i know where i stand and that he's genuine, then thats enough.

also, @CommonMan - your first post is exactly what i was thinking

 

all you nice guys out there, just don't be a push-over. "The very essence of romance is uncertainty" - from The Importance of Being Earnest. don't let a girl know that you're willing to do anything for her, even if you are. you don't have to compliment her all the time just in case she wants it. Be yourself, and be happy with yourself and then you'll meet someone when you aren't expecting it.

but dont become assholes, please.

@bolded - It's nice to know your mind is in the gutter too Of course you are dating Nathan Drake (I think according to your sig), and he's pretty damned smexy!

I compliment my fiancee whenever I feel like it, and since we're a good match, it happens to be a lot. I like to make a game out of surprising her with it, makes a difference to her to feel like she's not deserving of a compliment then you give it to her and you're sincere, she really likes that.



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nightsurge on 24 February 2010

I tend to finish way above last. But I am the anomoly of this poll because I am a good looking and rather wealthy nice guy (wealthy for my current age and student status).

Unless we are speaking of the bedroom, in which of course I finish last



Stefl1504 on 24 February 2010

Yes, we nice guys finish last.

I just voted for the ban to get you banned... I can't be that a nice guy, but I finish last.



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trashleg on 24 February 2010
CommonMan said:
trashleg said:

when i saw your wall of text, i prepared myself for some weird sexual shit, lol.

but surprisingly, i agree with all of this. i don't like assholes but i know that a lot of girls want to be "the one who changes him". me, i'd prefer a nice guy from the start. as long as i know where i stand and that he's genuine, then thats enough.

also, @CommonMan - your first post is exactly what i was thinking

 

all you nice guys out there, just don't be a push-over. "The very essence of romance is uncertainty" - from The Importance of Being Earnest. don't let a girl know that you're willing to do anything for her, even if you are. you don't have to compliment her all the time just in case she wants it. Be yourself, and be happy with yourself and then you'll meet someone when you aren't expecting it.

but dont become assholes, please.

@bolded - It's nice to know your mind is in the gutter too Of course you are dating Nathan Drake (I think according to your sig), and he's pretty damned smexy!

I compliment my fiancee whenever I feel like it, and since we're a good match, it happens to be a lot. I like to make a game out of surprising her with it, makes a difference to her to feel like she's not deserving of a compliment then you give it to her and you're sincere, she really likes that.

why yes, yes it is. and yes, yes i am he IS smexy isn't he

he compliments me sometimes, he has this tendency to just blurt out whatever he's thinking sometimes and of course i like it, but i always wonder if he's being sincere. so sometimes i just say "shhhhh" because i don't know what else to say. o.0



Highwaystar101 said: trashleg said that if I didn't pay back the money she leant me, she would come round and break my legs... That's why people call her trashleg, because she trashes the legs of the people she loan sharks money to.
Johann on 24 February 2010

I sadly agree with most of what Esmoreit said.

If you're in a bar with a girl and a guy twice your size walks up to her and starts harassing her, it doesn't matter what this girl ever tells you, she would much rather you take a severe beating than just be a gentleman and walk away. So what if you've broken a couple ribs and you're pissing blood? At least you're not a "coward".

Don't get me wrong, it's not that she wants you to get hurt. Not at all. In fact, if you had punched the guy out, she would have been even happier (although I know women who would never ever admit this). But given the choice between "wussing out" and getting the crap beaten out of you... well, let's just say pacifists are less likely to get any.



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Esmoreit on 24 February 2010
Johann said:
I sadly agree with most of what Esmoreit said.

If you're in a bar with a girl and a guy twice your size walks up to her and starts harassing her, it doesn't matter what this girl ever tells you, she would much rather you take a severe beating than just be a gentleman and walk away. So what if you've broken a couple ribs and you're pissing blood? At least you're not a "coward".

Don't get me wrong, it's not that she wants you to get hurt. Not at all. In fact, if you had punched the guy out, she would have been even happier (although I know women who would never ever admit this). But given the choice between "wussing out" and getting the crap beaten out of you... well, let's just say pacifists are less likely to get any.


Ha, this reminds me of soemthing a few months ago. I was walking home with a friend and ended up in a fight. We both got a couple of scrapes ( he had a cut lip, I had a scratch on my forehead). We won of course but after filing a complaint at the police we ran into his girlfriend who immidiatly noticed the lip. They both walked home while she was berating him for always getting into stupid fights. (Notice, he's a cop).

I called him the next day, asking how it went. "Yeah... she gave me a lot of shit. That I should be more careful. Think about her, etc."

So...how was morning sex?

"Better then fucking ever".



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pastro243 on 24 February 2010
Johann said:
I sadly agree with most of what Esmoreit said.

If you're in a bar with a girl and a guy twice your size walks up to her and starts harassing her, it doesn't matter what this girl ever tells you, she would much rather you take a severe beating than just be a gentleman and walk away. So what if you've broken a couple ribs and you're pissing blood? At least you're not a "coward".

Don't get me wrong, it's not that she wants you to get hurt. Not at all. In fact, if you had punched the guy out, she would have been even happier (although I know women who would never ever admit this). But given the choice between "wussing out" and getting the crap beaten out of you... well, let's just say pacifists are less likely to get any.


Lol, I remember a friend said he was dancing at a club with a girl and s fight started, in the fight they made the girl fall down and my friend said: "she looked at me like saying you should beat the crap out of them"; he is a rugby player so he is big and strong but the guys he had to fight were like 12 guys so he said: "no way" xD. Didnt help with the girl.

 



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