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LOL, yeah the exageration works on both sides, it was exactly the opinion of the guy who made this thread. Multi-disc IS a problem but depending on the game and how its handle it can be a very minor issue. This gen, someone saying its not a problem at all and that people is lazy is exagerating as much as the guy saying its a big problem.

That doesn't sound stupid.

Imagine buying a console and it aldready has a selection of games you chose installed on them.

Sounds brilliant.

To be honest, I'm so used to double click start a game on PC that when I do have to change the disc in consoles that'd make me stand up, I'd get slightly annoyed even if it's just one disc, I just have no choice, I have no choice but to take a shit, I have no choice but to shower because I have this really fine skin and I have a job, I have no choice but to get food, that last part is especially important since I'd die pretty fast if I don't fulfill my stomach requirements and I don't want to die before I run out of money, which is hopefully never.

Fuck yes I'm lazy, I work jobs that give mental stress, last thing I wanna do after getting home, get things ready, and after finishing my excercises+shower is having to stand up just to change 1 little fucking disc, that's also another reason I don't take games out of a console unless I've at least beaten it once.

yup.it does !

the BD 25 is a single layer, many game's for the PS3 only require the single layer single sided BD 25

as time goes on would 25 GB's be enough, I tend to think that is pretty much spot on unless for Movie and sound you need the extra space of a BD 50.

but here is the rub. notice how many of the game's on the ps3 contain the BD 50?, it's not very many they are mostly BD 25'S which is far cheaper to do than publish on (2) DL-dvd 9's. that's the real cost saving measure of Blu-Ray..that BD 25 cost's the same to produce as a single DL-DVD 9!

I think many people think blu-ray they only think of the BD 50, and not the Real strength of Blu-Ray for software is the BD 25, not so much of the BD 50

its the BD 25. this is only going to keep the developer's happy in the future.

Is the BD disk ceaper to produce than DVD?
I can't believe that. How long have dvd's been around? it's cheap mass produced and not new. I don't see many BD given away with £3.99 magazines.
I think it's cheaper to produce 3 dvd's than 1 bd disk and if you can show me substantial evidence that proves you right I'll continue to believe that.

@kowenicki

I agree 100% with that , your playing a game!

how much time does it matter, if you have to change a disc..since your playing a game that's time your just using to play a game..free time out of the day for entertainment.

some game's can get kind of outta hand with the disc swapping, but that's not that big of a deal if you ask me.

I for one agree that yes it's alway's nice to have only the need for one disc. an I think many people here know my take on why I think Microsoft should have gone with HD DVD in the first place, but that is just may opinion. I still do not think swapping disc's is that much of a deal breaker though.

Maybe he meant real physical cost, if not it doesnt make sense. There still R & D that needed to be cover on the price, in the future than yes, but now I would be very surprise that the overall cost is less expensive than 2 DVD. I would also like some proof.

It's the blank ones that you burn on PCs that cost a lot because it's not as common in the consumer end, which is not to be confused with factory hard prints that PS3 games come with, the rest=other fees, that's where it really matters, DVD and BR are both just pieces of circular plastic in the end. Generally speaking, it gets expensive after 3DVDs+ to publish a game, and I'd imagen 2BRs+ would be where it gets expensive.

yes it is, bank on it I knoiw for a fact it is. see it all come's down to how the disc is manuf.

1 BD 50 is cheaper than a DL-DVD 9 dues to many reason's one of which has to dow with the time each need's to be fully finished in the production stages.

for the fact the BD 50 is produced like you would a CD,

see the big cost was you had to invest into production line's for BD production upfront that was what increased the cost, but now any company that has done so already the cost per disc is the same to produce a BD 25 as itr does to produce a single DL- DVD 9. and its almost nearing the cost of 10% for the same production as a single sided single layer dvd 5.

the true cost benefit of the BD 25 is now more viable than when it first started back in 2003 when the BD 25 "which was the BD 25" incased in cart. format due to no protective coating.