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Mr Khan said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Mr Khan said:

Like Iran with one or two nukes would be dangerous. I mean, certainly a bad situation, but Iran i think is cognizant enough to realize that *using* a nuke would be ruinous.

 

Israel with nukes is at least as dangerous as Iran with them, yet no-one seems to complain.

This is not true and you know it.

Why, exactly? What makes Israeli conduct in foreign affairs better than Iran? What has one done that the other has restrained itself from? Both have made threats against the other to take disturbingly drastic action, just that Ahmadinejad's language is somewhat more apocalyptic.

 

The only difference is the chance that Iran's regime could destabilize, and then do something stupid, but as long as they're thinking clearly, they're not going to use nukes.

Oh, come on. Israel has had nuclear weapons for many decades now, and haven't used them once. And do you really think any western nation would support Israel if they used nuclear weapons? Iran wouldn't care, they already have their enemies set in stone. Israel can't take that risk. And the government of Israel isn't some impulsive dictatorship that just launches nukes as it sees fit. You could make a case of Iran not launching nuclear weapons, but claiming that Israel is just as dangerous with its nuclear weapons as Iran is pathetic exaggeration.



 

 

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MontanaHatchet said:
MANUELF said:
They should shut up, United States has the most nuclear weapons in the world and no one cares

Because we're not unstable and likely to launch it out of petty anger and jealousy.

But United States is the only country who has used nuclear weapons against another country



I only thought 1 out of four Americans were stupid (South Park ref don't choke me)!

Iran is close, but they don't pose a nuclear thread yet.
I just hope that the US is smart enough to not invade a country under false pretences again.



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MANUELF said:
MontanaHatchet said:
MANUELF said:
They should shut up, United States has the most nuclear weapons in the world and no one cares

Because we're not unstable and likely to launch it out of petty anger and jealousy.

But United States is the only country who has used nuclear weapons against another country

Not only were the circumstances completely different (which I'm sure you realize, but are ignoring), the U.S. hasn't used one since (despite being in several wars). Not to mention the U.S. has severely reduced its number of nuclear weapons and been one of the leading nations worldwide in nuclear disarmament. But whatever...



 

 

MontanaHatchet said:
Mr Khan said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Mr Khan said:

Like Iran with one or two nukes would be dangerous. I mean, certainly a bad situation, but Iran i think is cognizant enough to realize that *using* a nuke would be ruinous.

 

Israel with nukes is at least as dangerous as Iran with them, yet no-one seems to complain.

This is not true and you know it.

Why, exactly? What makes Israeli conduct in foreign affairs better than Iran? What has one done that the other has restrained itself from? Both have made threats against the other to take disturbingly drastic action, just that Ahmadinejad's language is somewhat more apocalyptic.

 

The only difference is the chance that Iran's regime could destabilize, and then do something stupid, but as long as they're thinking clearly, they're not going to use nukes.

Oh, come on. Israel has had nuclear weapons for many decades now, and haven't used them once. And do you really think any western nation would support Israel if they used nuclear weapons? Iran wouldn't care, they already have their enemies set in stone. Israel can't take that risk. And the government of Israel isn't some impulsive dictatorship that just launches nukes as it sees fit. You could make a case of Iran not launching nuclear weapons, but claiming that Israel is just as dangerous with its nuclear weapons as Iran is pathetic exaggeration.

Exactly. That Israel has not used them should indicate that Iran probably won't, either. Both countries are conscious of the outside world, despite their relative assertiveness. The only danger of Iran going nuclear is similar to the danger of nuclear Pakistan, if a more desperately radical faction were able to seize control of the nukes, then use them.



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Mr Khan said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Mr Khan said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Mr Khan said:

Like Iran with one or two nukes would be dangerous. I mean, certainly a bad situation, but Iran i think is cognizant enough to realize that *using* a nuke would be ruinous.

 

Israel with nukes is at least as dangerous as Iran with them, yet no-one seems to complain.

This is not true and you know it.

Why, exactly? What makes Israeli conduct in foreign affairs better than Iran? What has one done that the other has restrained itself from? Both have made threats against the other to take disturbingly drastic action, just that Ahmadinejad's language is somewhat more apocalyptic.

 

The only difference is the chance that Iran's regime could destabilize, and then do something stupid, but as long as they're thinking clearly, they're not going to use nukes.

Oh, come on. Israel has had nuclear weapons for many decades now, and haven't used them once. And do you really think any western nation would support Israel if they used nuclear weapons? Iran wouldn't care, they already have their enemies set in stone. Israel can't take that risk. And the government of Israel isn't some impulsive dictatorship that just launches nukes as it sees fit. You could make a case of Iran not launching nuclear weapons, but claiming that Israel is just as dangerous with its nuclear weapons as Iran is pathetic exaggeration.

Exactly. That Israel has not used them should indicate that Iran probably won't, either. Both countries are conscious of the outside world, despite their relative assertiveness. The only danger of Iran going nuclear is similar to the danger of nuclear Pakistan, if a more desperately radical faction were able to seize control of the nukes, then use them.

Exactly. Iran has the danger of radicals gaining control over the nuclear weapons, or falling to a dangerous government. Israel does not. So by your points, you agree with me that Israel is not as dangerous with nuclear arms as Iran.

Thank you.



 

 

MontanaHatchet said:
MANUELF said:
MontanaHatchet said:
MANUELF said:
They should shut up, United States has the most nuclear weapons in the world and no one cares

Because we're not unstable and likely to launch it out of petty anger and jealousy.

But United States is the only country who has used nuclear weapons against another country

Not only were the circumstances completely different (which I'm sure you realize, but are ignoring), the U.S. hasn't used one since (despite being in several wars). Not to mention the U.S. has severely reduced its number of nuclear weapons and been one of the leading nations worldwide in nuclear disarmament. But whatever...

I know the situations were different but that doesn´t matter with my point US still is the only country who has used nuclear weapons against another



MANUELF said:
MontanaHatchet said:
MANUELF said:
MontanaHatchet said:
MANUELF said:
They should shut up, United States has the most nuclear weapons in the world and no one cares

Because we're not unstable and likely to launch it out of petty anger and jealousy.

But United States is the only country who has used nuclear weapons against another country

Not only were the circumstances completely different (which I'm sure you realize, but are ignoring), the U.S. hasn't used one since (despite being in several wars). Not to mention the U.S. has severely reduced its number of nuclear weapons and been one of the leading nations worldwide in nuclear disarmament. But whatever...

I know the situations were different but that doesn´t matter with my point US still is the only country who has used nuclear weapons against another

Is that the only thing you have to say, though? I've already explained why that's irrelevant. So if that's all you've got, we're done here.



 

 

Intresting,I personally think that all nukes should be destroyed,why? Mainly because in my opinion theres too great a risk of some extremists taking control of a nuke and using it to wreak havoc on some city,this would then probably start of a series of events that would end in war.



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Why would Iran risk losing 10% of the oil and 15% of the gas reserves of the world by using nuclear weapons? They are smarter then that... cause they already own all of our energy balls.. we can't life without Iran they know that..



 

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