This sucks. We need competition between the two. This will only drive the prices for ATI's GPUs sky high.
Nvidia beating ATI for years is good but ATI beating them to the market with a superior product = suckage and bad for competition?
makes me wish ATI was still Canadian owned
| Random Canadian said: Nvidia beating ATI for years is good but ATI beating them to the market with a superior product = suckage and bad for competition? makes me wish ATI was still Canadian owned |
Agreed...
Long Live SHIO!
WilliamWatts said:
The 5xxx prices aren't good in the short term but the profit reaped by ATI ought to be good for the longer term as it will allow them to hire more people and invest so that their 6xxx, 7xxx and 8xxx products are equally as good at least relative to Nvidia. |
AMD certainly needs the cash (at the moment) given their CPU side. Bulldozer is a huge risk.
Can't say I am sad about this. AMD needs all the money they can get, so it's important that ATI gets to be the graphics king for a while.
| Slimebeast said: Can't say I am sad about this. AMD needs all the money they can get, so it's important that ATI gets to be the graphics king for a while. |
Even if they are then graphics kings, I'd still like to see near even performance between the two companies GPU offerings so pricing doesn't kill us.
| ssj12 said: Even if they are then graphics kings, I'd still like to see near even performance between the two companies GPU offerings so pricing doesn't kill us. |
Yeah, I honestly just want NVidia to get the Fermi line out already so that they can force ATI to stop price-gouging their 57XX and 58XX lines.
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Garcian Smith said:
Yeah, I honestly just want NVidia to get the Fermi line out already so that they can force ATI to stop price-gouging their 57XX and 58XX lines. |
Yes, agreed.
I'd rather not have to basically pay a $100 premium for a 5850 or 5870 because Nvidia doesn't have anything comparable at the same price.
If they did, I'm sure most would agree that a 5850 would probably be priced about $199 and the 5870 about $299 (the initial prices for the 4850 and 4870 respectively). And that doesn't even include the additional premiums both cards command due to short supplies relative to demand. If Nvidia had comparable cards, there wouldn't be shortages on ATI cards and we'd be seeing rebates rather than price hikes from retailers.
It's a lose-lose situation, even if you are an ATI "fan."
| greenmedic88 said: I'd rather not have to basically pay a $100 premium for a 5850 or 5870 because Nvidia doesn't have anything comparable at the same price. If they did, I'm sure most would agree that a 5850 would probably be priced about $199 and the 5870 about $299 (the initial prices for the 4850 and 4870 respectively). And that doesn't even include the additional premiums both cards command due to short supplies relative to demand. If Nvidia had comparable cards, there wouldn't be shortages on ATI cards and we'd be seeing rebates rather than price hikes from retailers. It's a lose-lose situation, even if you are an ATI "fan." |
The bottleneck here isn't ATI though. Im sure if TSMC's 40nm production was ramped better with better yields they would have returned the chips to their launch prices by now. At present they probably are on a knife edge and any reduction in price would likely lead to shortages again. Once Nvidia starts to ramp up their competitor its not going to help the supply situation in the short term and infact it'll probably make it worse.
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