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Arius Dion on 16 February 2010

Hello analyst#1983453409509348

Good-Bye, Logic.



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


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If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

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Wyrdness on 16 February 2010
Kenny said:
jarrod said:
The industry at large needs to realize DS/Wii isn't some one off anomaly, it's actually a total market shift and reset. The sooner developers, publishers, "games" media and analysts figure this out, the better for all involved.

It's not that simple for developers.  They sunk all their investments into HD game development at the beginning of the generation, and were either unable or unwilling to change direction when the Wii suddenly seized the lead.  The only remaining tool they had at their disposal was to attempt to convince the audience that HD was the way to go.  To that end, industry developers, analysts and media alike built up a sense of elitism aimed squarely against the Wii, which only served to further alienate the 'core' gaming community from entrants coming from the larger market.  The end result is that they can't support Nintendo this generation, because it would involve going back on their words (and by this point, it's too late for this generation anyway).  Considering that they choked off any new blood from entering their market segment, this will result in the destruction of many third parties, and a drastic swing in the long term balance of power of the console wars back in Nintendo's favour as new developer entrants are heavily restricted by the ever-increasing cost of entry to the gaming market, and the survivors attempt to recover from this generation.  In that, it matters little for Nintendo if third parties never figure it out.

Interesting angle to look at it from, alot of devs have been hit financially.



forest-spirit on 16 February 2010
RolStoppable said:
All those analysts are going to make me obsolete.

Competition is a good thing.

 

@Article:

I bet someone will have his mouth full of crow before the year's end.



saicho on 17 February 2010

so in short, he is saying devs should make more crappy games to save money since there are too many AAA games and a lot of Wii owners would choose to upscale their casual experience once NATAL/Arc is released.

I have to say that he is even better than Pachter.



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

Moren on 17 February 2010
RolStoppable said:
All those analysts are going to make me obsolete.


the difference is that they get money for doing these types of predictions 



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LordTheNightKnight on 17 February 2010
morenoingrato said:
RolStoppable said:
All those analysts are going to make me obsolete.


the difference is that they get money for doing these types of predictions 

I thought they had jobs for their money, unless they are getting kickbacks to make these specific predictions.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

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mike_intellivision on 17 February 2010

James Brightman is a veteran games journalist with more than six years of experience. He was previously the EIC of GameDaily Biz.
IndustryGamers - Your Games Are Our Business. James Brightman, Editor-in-Chief & Co-Founder.

Tells you all that you need to know. This is a two person operation with its own opinions. And while the statements quoted were made by Janco Partners analyst Mike Hickey, they fit the general Wii-bashing and Nintendo-bashing of the site.

From Wii and DS Contribute to $30 Million Decline in January Sales: http://www.industrygamers.com/news/wii-and-ds-contribute-to-30-million-decline-in-january-sales/
And yet, it almost seems like this is something Nintendo is proud of. "Holiday shoppers depleted our supplies even after our fourth holiday season," boasted Cammie Dunaway, Nintendo of America's executive vice president of Sales & Marketing. Note to Cammie: They shouldn't have depleted it; Nintendo clearly is having trouble properly allocating shipments, which is quite strange this far into the game.

No such editorial comments are made in the brief story about Sony PS3 stock running low in the UK. http://www.industrygamers.com/news/ps3-stock-running-low-in-uk/

As for the analyst, he is guilty of making mistakes. He predicted BioShock on Wii. He also said that PS3 needed a price cut because there was too much stock but then said Wii needed a price cut because there was no sales -- not realizing there were no sales because there was no stock.

Mike from Morgantown



      


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amp316 on 17 February 2010

Mike Hickey?

He sounds more like a porn star than an analyst.



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gurglesletch on 17 February 2010
Metallicube said:
Are gaming analysts ALL retarded?

Yes, i believe you are correct sir.




Get your Portable ID!

GuyDuke on 19 February 2010

Why do they all believe Arc and Natal will kill the Wii? The Wii has already its successor prepared and casual people usually don't buy 2 consoles. Nintendo has many weapons remaining under its arm. Why do they need to cut the price if the Wii can outsell both PSP, Xbox and PS3 at the same time?