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Icyedge on 16 February 2010
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So a nunchuck too? Isn't this just a complete copycat of the wii?

MS will get round to doing a wand/nunchuk eventually. I don't see them letting Sony have the best FPS controls for long.

Your opinion.

What do you think they'll do for shooters? Point and say "bang"? Stick with dual analogue?

No, use the 360 controller, one of the best of all time.

I'm not so sure. Online FPS is very competitive.

To Seece, I prefer the PS3 controller, but im with you, a controller control better, its more precise. Unless you have a gun you can aim with 2 hands while someones moving camera for you, ill stick with the controller. Ill be happy to use a motion controller to play flower though... lol

You might prefer dual analog but the Wiimote, Arc and mouse are all/will be more accurate. Motion has nothing to do with it. If MW2 is patched with arc support like Resi 5 is then Sony could take the shooter crown from MS. Take a look at the overwhelmingly positive reception Resi 4 on Wii received.

Why are you comparing wiimote, arc with a computer mouse???

Because they are all pointer controls that improve precision in FPS, RTS, anything that involves pointing and clicking/shooting.

Well ok... Maybe im the only person to be more precise with a mouse on a flat surface than with a remote in my hand aiming with my arm in the air.



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Pyro as Bill on 16 February 2010
Icyedge said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Icyedge said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Icyedge said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Seece said:
Demotruk said:
Seece said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Seece said:
So a nunchuck too? Isn't this just a complete copycat of the wii?

MS will get round to doing a wand/nunchuk eventually. I don't see them letting Sony have the best FPS controls for long.

Your opinion.

What do you think they'll do for shooters? Point and say "bang"? Stick with dual analogue?

No, use the 360 controller, one of the best of all time.

I'm not so sure. Online FPS is very competitive.

To Seece, I prefer the PS3 controller, but im with you, a controller control better, its more precise. Unless you have a gun you can aim with 2 hands while someones moving camera for you, ill stick with the controller. Ill be happy to use a motion controller to play flower though... lol

You might prefer dual analog but the Wiimote, Arc and mouse are all/will be more accurate. Motion has nothing to do with it. If MW2 is patched with arc support like Resi 5 is then Sony could take the shooter crown from MS. Take a look at the overwhelmingly positive reception Resi 4 on Wii received.

Why are you comparing wiimote, arc with a computer mouse???

Because they are all pointer controls that improve precision in FPS, RTS, anything that involves pointing and clicking/shooting.

Well ok... Maybe im the only person to be more precise with a mouse on a flat surface than with a remote in my hand aiming with my arm in the air.

Try resting your arm on a flat surface instead of waving it in the air. I find it helps.



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Seihyouken on 16 February 2010

Has anyone stopped to consider just how a wireless nunchuck attachment would work? The PS3 as I recall can connect with up to 7 bluetooth enabled assessories. If we have a motion controller and wireless nunchuck each take up one of those slots than we can only have a maximum combination of 3 remote/nunchuck players playing any game at once with one slot left over for an additional DualShock 3/Motion Controller/Wireless Headset.

It would probably be much more cost effective for Sony to simply attach the two with a cable the way that Nintendo does and the lower price could drive more sales of the assessory as well.



Icyedge on 16 February 2010
Seihyouken said:
Has anyone stopped to consider just how a wireless nunchuck attachment would work? The PS3 as I recall can connect with up to 7 bluetooth enabled assessories. If we have a motion controller and wireless nunchuck each take up one of those slots than we can only have a maximum combination of 3 remote/nunchuck players playing any game at once with one slot left over for an additional DualShock 3/Motion Controller/Wireless Headset.

It would probably be much more cost effective for Sony to simply attach the two with a cable the way that Nintendo does and the lower price could drive more sales of the assessory as well.

I guess that if they are able to upgrade hardware such as hdmi or blue-ray through firmware they should be able to also do it with their bluetooth hardware. Its only a guess though, but are you sure theres in fact a rule of 7 bluetooth accessories maximum?



Icyedge on 16 February 2010
Pyro as Bill said:

Try resting your arm on a flat surface instead of waving it in the air. I find it helps.

Im not convince it can be as precise as a mouse even with an experience player, but ill try some more when I have the chance, ill use your advice before building a final opinion. Since you seems to have used Wii control a lot, Ill give you benefit of doubts for now.



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Pyro as Bill on 16 February 2010
Icyedge said:
Pyro as Bill said:
 

Try resting your arm on a flat surface instead of waving it in the air. I find it helps.

Im not convince it can be as precise as a mouse even with an experience player, but ill try some more when I have the chance, ill use your advice before building a final opinion. Since you seems to have used Wii control a lot, Ill give you benefit of doubts for now.

I wouldn't say it's as precise as a mouse but it's much closer to a mouse than it is to dual analog.



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Bullet100000 on 16 February 2010

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Ssenkahdavic on 16 February 2010
Icyedge said:
Seihyouken said:
Has anyone stopped to consider just how a wireless nunchuck attachment would work? The PS3 as I recall can connect with up to 7 bluetooth enabled assessories. If we have a motion controller and wireless nunchuck each take up one of those slots than we can only have a maximum combination of 3 remote/nunchuck players playing any game at once with one slot left over for an additional DualShock 3/Motion Controller/Wireless Headset.

It would probably be much more cost effective for Sony to simply attach the two with a cable the way that Nintendo does and the lower price could drive more sales of the assessory as well.

I guess that if they are able to upgrade hardware such as hdmi or blue-ray through firmware they should be able to also do it with their bluetooth hardware. Its only a guess though, but are you sure theres in fact a rule of 7 bluetooth accessories maximum?

Could easily just use a USB wireless dongle for it like they do with RB/GH (not sure which, Ill have to check my guitar) as to not take up any BT slots. 

As for upping the total number of BT, I believe that can be done through Firmware.  We had a similar problem with something here at work and the manufactorer fixed the total number of connections through it via firmware. 



 

  

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Porcupine_I on 17 February 2010

let me just outline what i gathered from this thread so far:

-a wireless Nunchuck would be BAD because its a Wiimote ripoff

-no wireless Nunchuck would be BAD because the Wiimote does it best

-Sony and Microsoft have been downplaying Motion control until they came out with their own solution, but motion control will NOT catch on with the HD consoles.

i'm starting to get confused



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Staude on 17 February 2010

sony should go dual wand. I've said this all along. Use the middle thing that's a button of sorts as a analogue and dual wield the bastards.. that's the perfect motion controller. Works properly for fps without having to point at the freakin edge of the screen to turn around too.



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