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SaviorX on 14 February 2010
HappySqurriel said:

Grand Turismo 3 was my last installment in the Gran Turismo series because I found it to be very pretty but shallow ... I'm not a fan of simulation racing in general because I find this is a common failing of the genre.

With that said, when you're spending (what has been rumoured to be) over 5 years and $100 Million to develop a game and your competition releases 3 $20 Million games in the same time your game better be dramatically better; and sell dramatically better too. If you spend dramatically longer and dramatically more money to achieve an incremental improvement you have really been wasteful.

The last stated GT5 figure was $60 million, but that was before the current delay and excludes advertising costs.



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tombi123 on 14 February 2010
HappySqurriel said:
Icyedge said:


If the budget allocated for your example would be real a lot of people would go to China to work in a sweatshop...

Working in a sweatshop does not gives an income of 100 K per year.

100 persons * 100 000 per year = 10 M * 5 years = 50 M

 

Now if those 200 working at PD are paid 50 K per year as average, which should be reasonable, you get a budget of 50 M in 5 years in payroll. And then add the other fee like computer, local, electricity which should get you around 60 M.

I agree with your last statement tho, the game better be dramatically better.

An employee's salary represents 1/4 to 1/2 of the cost to employ them, so 200 people at 5 years with average earnings of $50,000 (which is remarkably low for high quality development talent) would be $100 Million to $200 Million in total budget.

5 years? Polyphony Digital have released 3 games since 2005. Tourist Trophy, Gran Turismo 5: Prologue and Gran Turismo PSP. Work on GT5 didn't start till late 2006. And PD have 110 workers note 200. So that takes your $100-200M figure down to $40-80M split over at least 2 games.



homicidaIpanda on 14 February 2010

Yamauchi your game doesnt run in 60fps and forza does



AlkamistStar on 14 February 2010

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Hisiru on 14 February 2010

He is so smart that I doubt he would say such thing about the competitors.

Bad translation.



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Feylic on 14 February 2010
themanwithnoname said:
Feylic said:
At least this wasn't nearly as bad as those Turn 10 comments.


Yeah, because calling Gran Turismo "stale" is totally worse than saying you can't play another racing game outside of Gran Turismo for 5 minutes. Give me a freaking break. Both of them are bad, why can't everyone just man up and admit that Yamauchi isn't perfect anymore?

Who says he did anything wrong? Other games are inferior in quality to GT in many aspects. I see no problems here. He's not making untrue baseless claims.



creamtastic on 14 February 2010
KylieDog said:
At the least the other games actually release.




Spankey on 15 February 2010

Mr. GT: Forever imo doesn't have room to flap his jaw until he can back up what he's saying by actually putting a bit more info on the table.
GT:HD, GT5:P don't count when comparing full released games

yes it's his opinion, and he's entitled to it, but without something to back it up he just comes across as a bit lame.

don't forget he's already shown and blown his credibility when he said they could release GT:5 at any time they wished, then postponed a release?



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Mr. sickVisionz on 15 February 2010

HappySqurriel said:

... if you spend 3 times as much and 3 times as long as your competition to produce a game your game better be dramatically better.

 

This.  Gran Turismo should blow every other racer made since GT4 out of the water in pretty much every way possible.  At this point and with trash talking like that, it can't just be marginally better.  



XxXProphecyXxX on 15 February 2010

DW i'll just use the typical "well it sold 10m so its teh better game" argument like a certain group of fans always do about this certain franchise, so if you cant beat em in quality move to sales instead ahhh thank you I have learned a lot from you fanboys.=)