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Seece on 14 February 2010
BHR-3 said:
@ seece im still anti 360 and wii there are facts that are negative about those consoles that i just agree with i would still have all the vids on them but am not allowed too thats y i took them off i didnt just have them to make others feel bad bout there console of choice

1 reason i had them is its a good way of being able to decide who is and who is not obsessed with there console to me if a person is offended with those vids then they are obsessed if there're like me and dont really care which console is better then they wouldnt think much of them and maybe even laugh with the vids some parts where funny

Nobody was offended, it just made you look obsessed and immature.

There is nothing negative about them at all, they may have features you don't like, that doesn't mean they're negative. If you don't like the way that Microsoft and Nintendo deal business, then you're just a hypocrit because Sony are just as bad.



 

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Tridrakious on 14 February 2010

Sony isn't letting them bully them away from anything.

Instead of fighting Microsoft dollar wise, Sony invested the money they had into their own studios to support games like Uncharted, inFAMOUS, LittleBigPlanet, ModNation Racers, Demon's Souls, Resistance, etc.

I would rather that have happened.



BMaker11 on 14 February 2010
psrock said:
d21lewis said:
This is just my opinion and I've done zero research on the matter:

I think that Nintendo does whatever it wants to do.
I think Sony does what it thinks we want them to do.
I think Microsoft does all kinds of research and does what they need to do.

So while Sony and Nintendo take some risks (Sony does with technology and Nintendo does with creativity) Microsoft plays it very safely. They go for the tried and true. As a result, they don't really make any mistakes. Getting successful franchises on their console is all part of the formula.

Nintendo does what the majority wants them to do

Sony does whatever we don't want them to do

MS does what Sony should have done.

I don't think the majority wanted their blockbuster announcement at an E3 expo to be Wii Music....



JWS on 14 February 2010
The_vagabond7 said:
It's not that Sony won't, it's that Sony can't. The entertainment division had been bleeding money for the first few years of the PS3's life, and they lost billions. The actual figure I can't remember but they lost all of the money they made on the PS1 and PS2 combined just on the PS3's first few years of life. Try justifying getting into a bidding war with microsoft over timed exclusivity to your shareholders when your division is already hemorrhaging money like a man who just had his jugular sliced. It would not go over well. They are finally getting back into a decent position with the PS3 financially, but if they want to ever make some kind of money back, they can't compete for things in the way Microsoft is motivated to.

Sony fanboys like to say that sony is incredibly honorable for not "buying" exlusives like that evil slimey despicable "Micro$oft" but you can bet your sweet bippy that if sony had the capital to do so, they would be fighting microsoft tooth and nail and throwing wads of cash at everyone with pockets. There is no "honor" is multibillion dollar corporations, there is only results for your shareholders.

I think this hits it on the head. If i remember correctly metal gear and finial fantasy were both nentendo exclusives at one time. GTA was released on pc before it appeared on  playstation if i recall correctly. You can almost bet sony paid out some money to get them on the ps1 to gain marketshare against the last gen leader. Microsoft seems to be doing the same thing this gen except the titles are going multi-plat instead of exclusive.



gekkokamen on 15 February 2010

 

@kowenicki   360 has no place on this thread?  If I read correctly, the thread title says "Microsoft"....

Why Are Sony Letting Microsoft Bully Them Out Of Familiar Franchises?

Why? Because Sony'd rather spend their money on NEW franchises of their own, and my list illustrates that. Will it pay off? Certainly, as you'll see every third-party game one way or another going multiplat eventually, and those that already are sell quite well on the PS3, and in the case of japanese-developed games even better 'cause they sell in Japan.

 

 

gekkokamen said:
kowenicki said:

"i think its b/c sony are focusing on creating NEW and BIGGER franchises"

when will we see these NEW and BIGGER franchises you speak of? there has only been one big new franchise this gen from sony, Uncharted... but thats nowhere near as big as the ones you mention.

I think your view is wishful thinking.... its nothing to do with that and everything to do with margins and profit... game makers need to sell more to more gamers.. pure and simple.


Sony NEW franchises this gen :

Uncharted (part 2 was goty)

Infamous

Little Big Planet (goty)

Resistance

Motor Storm

MLB The Show

Warhawk (will definitely get a sequel)

White Knight Chronicles (sequel almost done in Japan)

M.A.G (you can bet this will go on)

Releasing soon (with franchise potential):

ModNation Racers

 

They may not seem big to you 'cause you're a shameless fanatic perhaps blinded by bad taste, but all of those are great to good games (look at gamerankings and metacritic) and have sold pretty well and you WILL see more of them AND THEY WILL STAY EXCLUSIVE. I included ONLY FIRST-PARTY titles, or I could've thrown in stuff like Valkyria Chronicles, but it's best not to include third party stuff since for those we never know and in this day and age it'll be quite rare to see a third-party franchise stay exclusive to a console.

 

So what NEW franchises does the X360 have this gen?

Gears of War (a THIRD-party franchise, very likely to go multi-console SOMEDAY and the 1st game is available on PC) (goty)

Left 4 Dead (a THIRD-party franchise, very likely to go multi-console SOMEDAY and it's available on PC)

Mass Effect  (a THIRD-party franchise, very likely to go multi-console SOMEDAY and it's available on PC)

Crackdown

Am I missing something, because I think that pretty much is all of them? and out of those Gears is big, L4D is above average for FPS, but the other two? just ME2 for now.

 

 

 



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pterodactyl on 15 February 2010

Because they put themselves in that position. They pissed away god-knows-how-many billions of dollars and are now paying for it.



sbvgc2012 on 15 February 2010

One reason only:SONY got a very stupid ad manager or CEO.

He knows nothing about advertising.

Advertising is f***ing important in everything,not only the quality.

 

 

Advertising is important than quality(not in science researching),that's just it.I didn't say quality is not important,it's very important,but it's just behind the advertising.



gamelover2000 on 15 February 2010

Sony recently said that 3rd party exclusives will never be 100% sure to remain exclusive.. they are more intrested in 1st party games



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