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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Final Fantasy XIII Xbox 360 Bundle Confirmed!!!

DirtyP2002 on 13 February 2010
BMaker11 said:
shinyuhadouken said:
BMaker11 said:
leo-j said:

This is beyond pathetic, I'm sorry, sony you are the most retarded company I have ever fucking seen when it comes to 3rd party games, the only smart thing you have done with a 3rd party ip was with MGS4.


Microsoft "Every playstation franchise has migrated to XBOX 360, and all of you will do the same"

that statement makes so much more sense now, since it seems former huge playstation ip, are being more assosiated with the XBOX brand than the playstation brand.

1.5M first week in one region already. 360 has some catching up to do from the get go....not to mention that even if it DOES manage to outsell the PS3 version in America, it won't in Europe. I'm not worried and neither should you. I doubt this game's brand recognition is gonna switch to the 360. This is one of those games where it'll sell better on the PS3 (even if Xbox got a release in Japan). Just look at every Japanese centric game. Tekken, DMC, DBZ (yea, I'll count that), even Batman and Burnout sold better here

DMC4 sold better in the US and so did most other games. You're only listing a few. FF13 won't outsell the 360 version. The difference in userbase is huge in the US.

Yea I'm listing a few...because I said 'Japanese centric games'. That kinda has to meet a certain criteria, right? And all of those games sold better on the PS3

 

And if you think the 360 version of FFXIII will overcome a 1.5M lead on top of what the PS3 version will sell in America and EU....you're crazy. I could say that Batman: Arkham Asylum PS3 won't outsell the 360 version because of the US, according to your logic......oh wait


That is because the PS3 actually has a userbase in Japan. But the japanese market is declining and it is very hard for japanese devlopers to focus on Japan alone, they have to be successful in the West, too. And the Xbox sold way more in NA than the PS3, so it makes sense to support the Xbox 360 as a Japanese developer.

That is just one reason. The other reason is that there is still a brand loyality. FF used to be great Playstation franchises. Same with Tekken and DMC. They tend to sell better on the PS3 because of the japanese audience and because they were on the PS2.

But almost every western franchise, especially the new ones, sell way better on the Xbox360.

  • Check Borderlands. almost 3:1 in favour of the Xbox 360.
  • Check Modern Warfare 2 almost a 3 million gap
  • Check Bioshock 5:1 in favour of the Xbox 360 (I know, late release)
  • Check Dragon Age 2:1 in favour of the Xbox 360
  • Check Assassins Creed I / II
  • Saints Row II 2:1 in favour of the Xbox 360
  • DJ Hero

But anyway, both sell enough software. 3rd party support won't disappear for one of the consoles.



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huaxiong90 on 13 February 2010

Smart move by Microsoft indeed.

Still, I don't think it'll outsell the PS3 version in NA given the pre-order rates.


Oh yeah, and I was definitely expecting "FF Versus XIII on Xbox 360" comments to show up.



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loy310 on 13 February 2010
leo-j said:

This is beyond pathetic, I'm sorry, sony you are the most retarded company I have ever fucking seen when it comes to 3rd party games, the only smart thing you have done with a 3rd party ip was with MGS4.


Microsoft "Every playstation franchise has migrated to XBOX 360, and all of you will do the same"

that statement makes so much more sense now, since it seems former huge playstation ip, are being more assosiated with the XBOX brand than the playstation brand.

Oh cry more, what do you want from Sony? should they try and one up MS on ever multiplat game out their, why should Sony make big investmens in 3rd party devs when all this gen have proven is that they can't be trusted with the money Sony or MS gives them?

 

Sony is doing fine investing into their 1st party studios, and i know that this is the best move for them, if it was left up the 3rd party devs alone Sony would have went broke a long time ago.



DirtyP2002 on 13 February 2010
loy310 said:
leo-j said:

This is beyond pathetic, I'm sorry, sony you are the most retarded company I have ever fucking seen when it comes to 3rd party games, the only smart thing you have done with a 3rd party ip was with MGS4.


Microsoft "Every playstation franchise has migrated to XBOX 360, and all of you will do the same"

that statement makes so much more sense now, since it seems former huge playstation ip, are being more assosiated with the XBOX brand than the playstation brand.

Oh cry more, what do you want from Sony? should they try and one up MS on ever multiplat game out their, why should Sony make big investmens in 3rd party devs when all this gen have proven is that they can't be trusted with the money Sony or MS gives them?

 

Sony is doing fine investing into their 1st party studios, and i know that this is the best move for them, if it was left up the 3rd party devs alone Sony would have went broke a long time ago.


ehm... no? Check the best selling games last gen, mostly 3rd party games. Only 5 of the 50 best selling games on the PS2 were actually 1st party. The phenomenal 3rd party support was what made the PS2 so successful.

 



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Vetron on 13 February 2010

PS3 reminds me of Gamecube.





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Xoj on 13 February 2010

looks like last minute bundle, but well it's a bundle.



BMaker11 on 13 February 2010
DirtyP2002 said:
BMaker11 said:
shinyuhadouken said:
BMaker11 said:
leo-j said:

This is beyond pathetic, I'm sorry, sony you are the most retarded company I have ever fucking seen when it comes to 3rd party games, the only smart thing you have done with a 3rd party ip was with MGS4.


Microsoft "Every playstation franchise has migrated to XBOX 360, and all of you will do the same"

that statement makes so much more sense now, since it seems former huge playstation ip, are being more assosiated with the XBOX brand than the playstation brand.

1.5M first week in one region already. 360 has some catching up to do from the get go....not to mention that even if it DOES manage to outsell the PS3 version in America, it won't in Europe. I'm not worried and neither should you. I doubt this game's brand recognition is gonna switch to the 360. This is one of those games where it'll sell better on the PS3 (even if Xbox got a release in Japan). Just look at every Japanese centric game. Tekken, DMC, DBZ (yea, I'll count that), even Batman and Burnout sold better here

DMC4 sold better in the US and so did most other games. You're only listing a few. FF13 won't outsell the 360 version. The difference in userbase is huge in the US.

Yea I'm listing a few...because I said 'Japanese centric games'. That kinda has to meet a certain criteria, right? And all of those games sold better on the PS3

 

And if you think the 360 version of FFXIII will overcome a 1.5M lead on top of what the PS3 version will sell in America and EU....you're crazy. I could say that Batman: Arkham Asylum PS3 won't outsell the 360 version because of the US, according to your logic......oh wait


That is because the PS3 actually has a userbase in Japan. But the japanese market is declining and it is very hard for japanese devlopers to focus on Japan alone, they have to be successful in the West, too. And the Xbox sold way more in NA than the PS3, so it makes sense to support the Xbox 360 as a Japanese developer.

That is just one reason. The other reason is that there is still a brand loyality. FF used to be great Playstation franchises. Same with Tekken and DMC. They tend to sell better on the PS3 because of the japanese audience and because they were on the PS2.

But almost every western franchise, especially the new ones, sell way better on the Xbox360.

  • Check Borderlands. almost 3:1 in favour of the Xbox 360.
  • Check Modern Warfare 2 almost a 3 million gap
  • Check Bioshock 5:1 in favour of the Xbox 360 (I know, late release)
  • Check Dragon Age 2:1 in favour of the Xbox 360
  • Check Assassins Creed I / II
  • Saints Row II 2:1 in favour of the Xbox 360
  • DJ Hero

But anyway, both sell enough software. 3rd party support won't disappear for one of the consoles.

It's not a matter of focusing only on Japan. He said that the PS3 version of FFXIII won't outsell the 360 version, and said he's wrong and that Japanese focused games sell better on the PS3. That's all. 

But there's also the matter of him saying that the gap in PS3/360 in America is so big that, once again, the PS3 version wouldn't outsell. So I even tossed in a few western games that, despite selling better on the 360 in America, sold better on the PS3 worldwide



calvinandhobbes on 13 February 2010

Wow this bundle is so disappointing. Seriously, I am pretty sure that they could have done something actually on the console (like the ps3 in japan). They should at least have included the face plate, but no they didn't



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Lolcislaw on 13 February 2010

not a bad bundle, but it kinda sucks that the console itself is not pimped out FF style. Cause PS3's sold with Movies and FF XIII looked awesome.



Kennyheart on 13 February 2010
Lolcislaw said:
not a bad bundle, but it kinda sucks that the console itself is not pimped out FF style. Cause PS3's sold with Movies and FF XIII looked awesome.


Exactly there's nothing special about it like the ps3 bundle.They should pimp up the design but they didn't and I thing his will hurt it.