Why are Adobe products so expensive?

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TWRoO on 08 February 2010

Sephiroth357 said:

TWRoO said:

Lol @ Gimp = common person

Anyhow. GIMP is excellent, and it's free.... photoshop is much more awesome though.

However you can get Photoshop CS elements (or somthing similar) which basically has about the same features as GIMP (I think... I haven't got it myself) but I find PS easier to use.... and it's about £60 on Amazon (I assume maybe $80)

Personally I have the full school version of Photoshop as my tutor let me have the disc.... but first of all this was 7 years ago (about when I think Photoshop 8 or 9 was releasing) and second of all it's a school, which means outdated software.... as such I have PS 5.0 Which I think came out in 1996 or 1997 or something.

It's true. I'm just a normal person and I use Gimp. I can't afford Photoshop.

I was laughing at the double meaning.

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redspear on 08 February 2010

TWRoO said:
This seems a good place to ask.... is there the GIMP equivalent (ie free) of a vector graphics program available? and if so where can i find it?

On my linux machines I run Inkscape. Is it as good not really but it is a fair shake.

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Sephiroth357 on 08 February 2010

TWRoO said:

Sephiroth357 said:

TWRoO said:

Lol @ Gimp = common person

Anyhow. GIMP is excellent, and it's free.... photoshop is much more awesome though.

However you can get Photoshop CS elements (or somthing similar) which basically has about the same features as GIMP (I think... I haven't got it myself) but I find PS easier to use.... and it's about £60 on Amazon (I assume maybe $80)

Personally I have the full school version of Photoshop as my tutor let me have the disc.... but first of all this was 7 years ago (about when I think Photoshop 8 or 9 was releasing) and second of all it's a school, which means outdated software.... as such I have PS 5.0 Which I think came out in 1996 or 1997 or something.

It's true. I'm just a normal person and I use Gimp. I can't afford Photoshop.

I was laughing at the double meaning.

Well, some people on this site use the Sly Cooper maneuver here and there. You never know, so I had to.

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Blacksaber on 08 February 2010

Sephiroth357 said:

Blacksaber said:

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Pretty much since I use both of them..

Why would you use Gimp when you have Adobe?

When doing little touch up jobs that can be done on both and it loads up quicker for me.

So, in other words, Adobe is used for most of your main project?

I have main projects? I'm not a designer I just get these products free from my brothers area he works in.

Former something....

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Sephiroth357 on 08 February 2010

Blacksaber said:

Sephiroth357 said:

Blacksaber said:

Sephiroth357 said:

Blacksaber said:

Sephiroth357 said:

Pretty much since I use both of them..

Why would you use Gimp when you have Adobe?

When doing little touch up jobs that can be done on both and it loads up quicker for me.

So, in other words, Adobe is used for most of your main project?

I have main projects? I'm not a designer I just get these products free from my brothers area he works in.

Yeah...Even 2nd graders do.

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GreyianStorm on 08 February 2010

Conner52 said:

Sephiroth357 said:

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Because they're business and company products.

In other words companies are willing to spend that much.

But they're also very good.

But GIMP is similar to Photoshop and it's free. I doubt Adobe needs that much money.

This is why pirating exists..

Most schools, and businesses have these products. Some normal people also have these products.

900 bucks or 40 bucks people would still pirate...

BTW Gimp isn't as good as photoshop just like you mentioned. Why are Mercedes more expensive than Hondas? Quality.

If gimp has 40% of the features as photoshop it doesn't matter as it's free. The price doesn't justify the quality as their programs are bloated and slow, but sadly my school uses them.

If it was $40 I would say piracy of photoshop would halve. If it was $40 I would have no problem paying.

They might get more purchases, but to warrant dropping the price from $900 to $40, their sales would have to go up by 2250%. For sales to go up by that much just from 50% of the pirates switching from pirating to purchasing, it would mean that PhotoShop would currently have to be pirated 45 times to every 1 legitimate purchase, or piracy would have to currently account for more than 97.5% of "purchases".

If they lowered it to $40, piracy would drop, but so would their overall revenue. They've obviously calculated that $900 is the price at which their revenues will be at the highest number possible.

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NiKKoM on 08 February 2010

Conner52 said:

GIMP is also professional.

No, and student versions don't even have all of the features.

Strange.. I'm quite positive that the student version is the same as the proffesional version.. cause I work with both of them.. as a teacher and as a graphic Designer.. Anyway why it's so expensive? Cause a proffesional can earn a lot of money from it.. the Adobe CS4 pack costed me 2000 euro's and I made that back easily in 1 year.. actually.. in 30 days.. a good website can fetch you easily 1000 euro's.. And NO Gimp is not for proffesionals... it's CYMK color support is not good so you can't really use it in Press Design..

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Evocation on 08 February 2010

Problem is that for professional web developers it's at a fair price point... but for your average student that might want to make a quick website it's very expensive...
Anyway, personally I've moved from adobe stuff to text editors and GIMP but it takes longer... they have no real competitors...

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IllegalPaladin on 08 February 2010

Yea it stinks, but these are what professionals use and can achieve amazing results with. The one(s) you want are too expensive on its own and you might not get what you want in the bundles.