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Epoch on 11 February 2010
Killergran said:
My spontanious though is that that will be a very good computer. Have fun building.

Thanks man, I looked at comparable systems from stores and they were all over $2000 with unknown parts, but a fancier case.  Packaging sells I suppose.

EDIT: Should I get another case fan?  I don't know squat about how much heat this thing will produce.  But I do know that my laptop is running at about 60 degrees celcius lol.



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Garcian Smith on 11 February 2010
MasterHien said:
Hey guys how do i overclock my CPU?
i have a AMD Phenom (tm) 9750 quad core processor, MMX, 3Dnow, 2.4GHZ

Isit good if i overclock it?

Download AMD OverDrive and read this guide. Whenever it references tweaking something in the BIOS, just do the same thing in the OverDrive utility.

Just keep a close watch on your CPU temperature and watch for any crashes or lock-ups. I'm assuming you have stock cooling installed, in which case it can handle some light OCing, but if you plan on pushing it any more than that, grab a nice aftermarket cooler like the Cooler Master Hyper 212.



"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."

 -Sean Malstrom

 

 

Strategyking92 on 11 February 2010
Garcian Smith said:
Strategyking92 said:
Are there any good (in other words, OK) Gaming Laptops which are under $1000?
I am looking for something that can play the best looking recent games at least on medium/high and will be able to play future games.

Before you think about getting a gaming laptop, ask yourself how much you'd really play games "on the go." For most people, the reality is probably, "not much."

If you want a PC to take to LAN parties and such, then build a desktop in a Micro-ATX case. Then, if you want a laptop to do laptop stuff on, get a netbook.

In reality it would be a laptop that also acts as my desktop. I would rather have an all-purpose piece of equipment rather than 2 things. Basically, it would be something that I take through college most likely.



And that's the only thing I need is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this PS4... And this gaming PC. - The PS4 and the Gaming PC and that's all I need... And this Xbox 360. - The PS4, the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360, and that's all I need... And these PS3's. - The PS4, and these PS3's, and the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360... And this Nintendo DS. - The PS4, this Xbox 360, and the Gaming PC, and the PS3's, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. - The Gaming PC and PS4, and Xbox 360, and thePS3's . Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.

Obligatory dick measuring Gaming Laptop Specs: Sager NP8270-GTX: 17.3" FULL HD (1920X1080) LED Matte LC, nVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M, Intel Core i7-4700MQ, 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3, 750GB SATA II 3GB/s 7,200 RPM Hard Drive

Garcian Smith on 11 February 2010
Strategyking92 said:

In reality it would be a laptop that also acts as my desktop. I would rather have an all-purpose piece of equipment rather than 2 things. Basically, it would be something that I take through college most likely.

Thing is, if you buy a gaming laptop, you'll be paying twice as much for parts half as powerful as if you were to just build a desktop. It's extremely poor value for your money compared to if you were to buy a desktop + netbook or something. So are you really willing to pay through the nose for substandard stuff just because you want one computer instead of two?



"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."

 -Sean Malstrom

 

 

Epoch on 11 February 2010
Strategyking92 said:
Garcian Smith said:
Strategyking92 said:
Are there any good (in other words, OK) Gaming Laptops which are under $1000?
I am looking for something that can play the best looking recent games at least on medium/high and will be able to play future games.

Before you think about getting a gaming laptop, ask yourself how much you'd really play games "on the go." For most people, the reality is probably, "not much."

If you want a PC to take to LAN parties and such, then build a desktop in a Micro-ATX case. Then, if you want a laptop to do laptop stuff on, get a netbook.

In reality it would be a laptop that also acts as my desktop. I would rather have an all-purpose piece of equipment rather than 2 things. Basically, it would be something that I take through college most likely.

Hey man, I see you want the portability of a laptop to bring to school, but laptops for gaming purposes are not very good unless you are willing to spend a lot of money. I can't see how cramming a powerful graphics card into such a small case wouldn't cause heat problems, which is the biggest problem with my current laptop.  I had a look at alienware and they are all over $1000 for middle-range stuff.  The mx15 seems the best dollar value, but it only has a 512 mb graphics card.

When I first got my laptop it could run most games at ok settings, but because they are hard to upgrade it quickly became obsolete.  Granted I got my laptop 7 years ago, so maybe they are easier to upgrade now. I wouldn't get a laptop for gaming purposes, they don't last long enough for the money and aren't easily upgradeable. 

Although if you really have your heart set on it, definitely get a fan pad. I'm pretty sure it's the only reason my laptop is still running.



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Epoch on 11 February 2010
Garcian Smith said:
Strategyking92 said:

In reality it would be a laptop that also acts as my desktop. I would rather have an all-purpose piece of equipment rather than 2 things. Basically, it would be something that I take through college most likely.

Thing is, if you buy a gaming laptop, you'll be paying twice as much for parts half as powerful as if you were to just build a desktop. It's extremely poor value for your money compared to if you were to buy a desktop + netbook or something. So are you really willing to pay through the nose for substandard stuff just because you want one computer instead of two?

HEY! Get out of my head!

What do you think about theparts list i've put together?  Any final recommendations?

Corsair TX650W 650W ATX 12V 52A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan                  79.99

G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL Ripjaws PC3-12800 4GB 2X2GB DDR3     x2                                 222.98     


Intel Core i7 860 Quad Core Processor Lynnfield LGA1156 2.8GHZ                                                        304.99

Western Digital WD1001FALS Caviar Black 1TB SATA2 7200RPM 4.2MS 32MB                                     99.99

ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black                                                                 29.99

Logitech S220 2.1 Multimedia PC Speakers Black OEM                                                              31.99


Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 Keyboard & Optical Mouse Set USB OEM                                               25.99

Gigabyte P55A-UD3 ATX LGA1156 P55 DDR3 2PCI-E 2PCI RAID                                                               139.99

Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 725MHZ 1GB 4.0GHZ GDDR5 PCI-E                                                                 284.99

Lian Li PC-8N Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Case 4X5.25 1X3.5 3X3.5INT                                 100.58

 

                                                                                            Before Tax Total :                      1321.48



largedarryl on 11 February 2010
Garcian Smith said:
Strategyking92 said:

In reality it would be a laptop that also acts as my desktop. I would rather have an all-purpose piece of equipment rather than 2 things. Basically, it would be something that I take through college most likely.

Thing is, if you buy a gaming laptop, you'll be paying twice as much for parts half as powerful as if you were to just build a desktop. It's extremely poor value for your money compared to if you were to buy a desktop + netbook or something. So are you really willing to pay through the nose for substandard stuff just because you want one computer instead of two?

The problem with most "gaming laptops" is the weight.  Since most quality laptops that are actually remotely comparable to a desktop PC tend to be more like portable desktop than a laptop.  So in my experience you wouldn't want to be carrying a gaming laptop around school.



largedarryl on 11 February 2010
Epoch said:
Garcian Smith said:
Strategyking92 said:

In reality it would be a laptop that also acts as my desktop. I would rather have an all-purpose piece of equipment rather than 2 things. Basically, it would be something that I take through college most likely.

Thing is, if you buy a gaming laptop, you'll be paying twice as much for parts half as powerful as if you were to just build a desktop. It's extremely poor value for your money compared to if you were to buy a desktop + netbook or something. So are you really willing to pay through the nose for substandard stuff just because you want one computer instead of two?

HEY! Get out of my head!

What do you think about theparts list i've put together?  Any final recommendations?

Corsair TX650W 650W ATX 12V 52A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan                  79.99

G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL Ripjaws PC3-12800 4GB 2X2GB DDR3     x2                                 222.98     


Intel Core i7 860 Quad Core Processor Lynnfield LGA1156 2.8GHZ                                                        304.99

Western Digital WD1001FALS Caviar Black 1TB SATA2 7200RPM 4.2MS 32MB                                     99.99

ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black                                                                 29.99

Logitech S220 2.1 Multimedia PC Speakers Black OEM                                                              31.99


Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 Keyboard & Optical Mouse Set USB OEM                                               25.99

Gigabyte P55A-UD3 ATX LGA1156 P55 DDR3 2PCI-E 2PCI RAID                                                               139.99

Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 725MHZ 1GB 4.0GHZ GDDR5 PCI-E                                                                 284.99

Lian Li PC-8N Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Case 4X5.25 1X3.5 3X3.5INT                                 100.58

 

                                                                                            Before Tax Total :                      1321.48

Well that PC will be a beast in terms of performance.  I would expect you to get decent performance 6-7 years out with that rig. 



Epoch on 11 February 2010

Darryl: Ya for $1500 after tax I'm hoping to get a lot of years out of it.  No obvious issues though?



Garcian Smith on 11 February 2010
Epoch said:

Darryl: Ya for $1500 after tax I'm hoping to get a lot of years out of it.  No obvious issues though?

None that I can see.



"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."

 -Sean Malstrom