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Qualification + no experience = No Job

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So you have qualifications and no experience. Can not even get a job. You do not have a car license. Employer will not give you a chance. You do not have family or friends who will give you a job on a silver platter. Nepotism seems to be the only way to get employment these days.

You have applied for 1000's of jobs but 1000 applicants applied for that job and probably were better suited for the job.

What can you do besides make up experience about places you never worked. Experience gets you jobs right? Employers may not check up references but the experience would still count? Omit education from resume. Having a degree may raise questions with employer when applying for low-level jobs.

It is ok to have the experience through the job and earn the qualification later. But if you earn a qualification and have no experience. You have little or no chance of securing a job in that field. Weird how things work.



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I thought this was going to be an Obama thread.

Here is the problem. Jobs are hard to come by for anyone. If you were an employer, needed someone to work for you, and you had 50 people willing to work for the same pay to chose from, with 10 of those 50 highly qualified and highly experienced, why would you not reduce your search to those 10?

If you want a job with no experience and no qualifications, then in this day in age, the best you can hope for is to get elected to that job. No one is going to hire you into it. Sorry.



Experience is one of your job qualifications. If you lack experience, you are not qualified.

Most all (US) universities have connections to provide internships whether it's a cushy paid one that could eventually lead to hire or crappy unpaid one that will at least look good on your resume.

My university even requires 1 year of in-field work as part of its senior course path for several majors so you can't even graduate without having at least 1 year of major related job experience. Of course, by graduation you should have 2-3 years experience if you took advantage of the options available.

If you coast through uni just expecting a job spoon-fed to you after graduation then it's no one's fault but your own.

(Note: This is a US perspective. Not all may be applicable to the UK.)



Words Of Wisdom said:
Experience is one of your job qualifications. If you lack experience, you are not qualified.

Most all (US) universities have connections to provide internships whether it's a cushy paid one that could eventually lead to hire or crappy unpaid one that will at least look good on your resume.

My university even requires 1 year of in-field work as part of its senior course path for several majors so you can't even graduate without having at least 1 year of major related job experience. Of course, by graduation you should have 2-3 years experience if you took advantage of the options available.

If you coast through uni just expecting a job spoon-fed to you after graduation then it's no one's fault but your own.

(Note: This is a US perspective. Not all may be applicable to the UK.)

Problem is that view worked a year or two ago. Not so much today, Those internships universities used to have, are gone. Those companies are either not willing to pay an intern, or if they want one (free or otherwise), someone who is highly skilled and experienced who last year had a job in the field, is now doing it in hopes to get hired there.



Yes, it's very much so, and it's the evil paradox many young people in Europe and elsewhere in the world are victims of - how can you get experince if you're never allowed to work because you haven't got experience?

I think it sux that schools don't prepare you for this hardship. At least they don't here in Sweden.

I'm in general against socialism, but this is one area where the government should help people to get a chance to prove themselves. I don't know a good model for it, but the current system for introducing people to the job market and adult way of life really sux.



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Well luckly I work in the Graphic Design industry where talent is always more important then experience.. so I didn't have any problems after graduating.. I got picked up by scouts.. and where is my candy?



 

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@Slimebeast

The way to fix it, is for there to be so much work out there, thanks to the expansion of the economy, that companies are willing to train someone before they go without.

years ago, you could search for months for an experienced person and never find one (or have to pay them more then your willing to pay). Today that's not the case, and socialism definitely is not the answer in that regard.

I think the biggest short term problem is companies are learning to do more with less people (people working harder, longer, or just with less waist). When the economy does bounce back, a company that learned how to operates as efficiently with 85 people as it used to with 100, is not going to hire those 15 people back.

There are just going to be less jobs out there for a while. If your new or entering a field, it sucks. If you want to fix that, you need someone like Reagan in office, and not someone like Obama.

For all Reagan's faults, he expanded the economy like no other leader in history. Great for people entering the job market.



TheRealMafoo said:

@Slimebeast

The way to fix it, is for there to be so much work out there, thanks to the expansion of the economy, that companies are willing to train someone before they go without.

years ago, you could search for months for an experienced person and never find one (or have to pay them more then your willing to pay). Today that's not the case, and socialism definitely is not the answer in that regard.

I think the biggest short term problem is companies are learning to do more with less people (people working harder, longer, or just with less waist). When the economy does bounce back, a company that learned how to operates as efficiently with 85 people as it used to with 100, is not going to hire those 15 people back.

There are just going to be less jobs out there for a while
. If your new or entering a field, it sucks. If you want to fix that, you need someone like Reagan in office, and not someone like Obama.

For all Reagan's faults, he expanded the economy like no other leader in history. Great for people entering the job market.

Exactly. Not all humans are needed.

We have to either create enuff jobs for everybody, or design the society so that those people who aren't needed will still get decent lives.



Slimebeast said:
TheRealMafoo said:

@Slimebeast

The way to fix it, is for there to be so much work out there, thanks to the expansion of the economy, that companies are willing to train someone before they go without.

years ago, you could search for months for an experienced person and never find one (or have to pay them more then your willing to pay). Today that's not the case, and socialism definitely is not the answer in that regard.

I think the biggest short term problem is companies are learning to do more with less people (people working harder, longer, or just with less waist). When the economy does bounce back, a company that learned how to operates as efficiently with 85 people as it used to with 100, is not going to hire those 15 people back.

There are just going to be less jobs out there for a while
. If your new or entering a field, it sucks. If you want to fix that, you need someone like Reagan in office, and not someone like Obama.

For all Reagan's faults, he expanded the economy like no other leader in history. Great for people entering the job market.

Exactly. Not all humans are needed.

We have to either create enuff jobs for everybody, or design the society so that those people who aren't needed will still get decent lives.

By society if you mean the people, I agree. If you mean government, then I don't.

We just need to take care of our kids longer, or our parents when they enter late stages of life. We need to give more to food banks, or donate time to build shelters. Government trying to fix the problem, never works.

In the past, in the US, when there was a problem that needed fixing, the last people you thought of for help, was government. Today it's the only people we look to, and how's that going?



TheRealMafoo said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Experience is one of your job qualifications. If you lack experience, you are not qualified.

Most all (US) universities have connections to provide internships whether it's a cushy paid one that could eventually lead to hire or crappy unpaid one that will at least look good on your resume.

My university even requires 1 year of in-field work as part of its senior course path for several majors so you can't even graduate without having at least 1 year of major related job experience. Of course, by graduation you should have 2-3 years experience if you took advantage of the options available.

If you coast through uni just expecting a job spoon-fed to you after graduation then it's no one's fault but your own.

(Note: This is a US perspective. Not all may be applicable to the UK.)

Problem is that view worked a year or two ago. Not so much today, Those internships universities used to have, are gone. Those companies are either not willing to pay an intern, or if they want one (free or otherwise), someone who is highly skilled and experienced who last year had a job in the field, is now doing it in hopes to get hired there.

Look, it's nice that you have an opinion but you're wrong. 

At my university, the same number of opportunities are still present for work experience however the pay scale has gone down a grade or two. 

Either my university is just that awesome or you're talking out of your arse without firsthand experience.