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i would buy another one then. it would be nice to have a ps3 in my bedroom.



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jarrod said:
CommonMan said:
Grimes said:
CommonMan said:
I believe Kevin Butler said it best "Price check in aisle BOOM!"

360 would be out of business (if were talking holding it's price steady, which would be suicide) and the PS3 and Wii would be neck and neck.

Sombody would be out of business, I'm not so sure it would be MS or Nintendo.

Well actually, if we're holding everything but the ps3 price constant in this hypothetical, they would be losing ~$150-170 per unit and selling millions. So for every million sold, Sony'd lose $1.5 to 1.7 billion. So if they did their 13 million projected they would be down around $20 billion. Not sure they could sustain that for very long, even with increased software sales. It would kill their tie-ratio as well, since they would become impulse purchases.

No, they're already losing an estimated ~$37 on each PS3 unit just for assembly.  That doesn't include cables, controllers, boxing, transport logistics, or retail markdown.

At $149, they'd probably be losing at least $200 or more per unit.


whatever the price of the PS3 is is not the fault in his statement.. its his math.. 13 million PS3s sold at 200$ loss is not 26billion dollar loss.. its 2.6 Bil loss..



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gamelover2000 said:
jarrod said:
CommonMan said:
Grimes said:
CommonMan said:
I believe Kevin Butler said it best "Price check in aisle BOOM!"

360 would be out of business (if were talking holding it's price steady, which would be suicide) and the PS3 and Wii would be neck and neck.

Sombody would be out of business, I'm not so sure it would be MS or Nintendo.

Well actually, if we're holding everything but the ps3 price constant in this hypothetical, they would be losing ~$150-170 per unit and selling millions. So for every million sold, Sony'd lose $1.5 to 1.7 billion. So if they did their 13 million projected they would be down around $20 billion. Not sure they could sustain that for very long, even with increased software sales. It would kill their tie-ratio as well, since they would become impulse purchases.

No, they're already losing an estimated ~$37 on each PS3 unit just for assembly.  That doesn't include cables, controllers, boxing, transport logistics, or retail markdown.

At $149, they'd probably be losing at least $200 or more per unit.


whatever the price of the PS3 is is not the fault in his statement.. its his math.. 13 million PS3s sold at 200$ loss is not 26billion dollar loss.. its 2.6 Bil loss..

Well, the iSuppli figure seems outdated now anyway, with the six cents per dollar ratio.  



Sony fans would wonder why they would want to buy an underpowered PS3 with no blu-ray player or hard drive when they could have a 360 that outputs in HD or a Wii with great motion controls.



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MS would have to immediately drop the high end 360 to the same price or be crushed.

Nintendo would ignore it and since PS3 has the least mass market games of the 3 systems currently, would get away with doing so for a while. If your a woman or have kids there's just too little content on PS3 to be worth a purchase even at $150.

Assuming MS drops the price of 360 then we go right back to where we are, except 360 would be stealing more of Wii's audience than PS3 and therefore probably outsell the PS3 until Nintendo matched the price point. On the flip side, a lot of people might buy a PS3 just for blu-ray but that would only serve to make this a huge loss for Sony even if it ups there marketshare.

There's little to be gained for Sony to be at a mass market price until they have the corresponding software. When Just Dance, The Biggest Loser and Deal or No Deal have PS3 versions then dropping the price below's Wiis might make sense.

Remember the PS2 sold as much as it did because it had ALL the software for ALL markets not just games for gamers.



 

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Theoretically, if PS3 components became magically dirt cheap...

Nintendo would be fine. They'd still sell to many of the same customers, many of whom don't even consider the HD console route an option. They wouldn't cut price just for marketshare, I highly doubt they care about it (and rightly so, they carry the system on their own). The Wii would probably continue to outsell the PS3 once the price cut craze wears off.

MS would be doing worse, but it's not as if those prices would drop 360 sales to zero. The 360 is a fine deal, regardless of how the PS3 is priced (though anyone that doesn't care for 360 exclusives will pass on it). Even if their sales dropped to 35-50% of their current sales, they already have an enourmous install base who will continue to buy software.



There'd be no PS3 to purchase, as Sony would've long gone bankrupt and closed its doors shut.



c0rd said:

Theoretically, if PS3 components became magically dirt cheap...

Nintendo would be fine. They'd still sell to many of the same customers, many of whom don't even consider the HD console route an option. They wouldn't cut price just for marketshare, I highly doubt they care about it (and rightly so, they carry the system on their own). The Wii would probably continue to outsell the PS3 once the price cut craze wears off.

MS would be doing worse, but it's not as if those prices would drop 360 sales to zero. The 360 is a fine deal, regardless of how the PS3 is priced (though anyone that doesn't care for 360 exclusives will pass on it). Even if their sales dropped to 35-50% of their current sales, they already have an enourmous install base who will continue to buy software.

Realistically, I actually think both Nintendo and MS would just price match @ $149.  Nintendo would probably find a way to break even (maybe remove WiiSports and sell it for $29 separately?), and MS would just eat the loss (and probably throw in small HDD to feature match).



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EncodedNybble said:
jarrod said:
Inversely... what if Wii was $99 right now?

I think this wouldn't have that great of an effect (maybe a consistent 10% increase over current numbers).


Why?


Wii is already the cheapest console, people who want a game console but don't want to spend a lot of money (thus not caring which console they get) would probably own a wii.  To put another way all of the "impulse buys" from this price point would have to come from PS360 owners since the Wii has already been the most "impulse buy" console for a while.

 

The Wii has already been sold to like 1/6th of the world's population (I keed), so, unless penguins start buying Wiis, they have no more people to sell to.

This is the same thing people say about Wii price drop form $249 to $199 which didn't turn out to be true.

TWRoO said:
Netyaroze said:

Hmm maybe Sony could give the PS3 for free to everyone if you sign a contract that you will buy every month a game directly from Sony. For 3 years. Sony would sell 36 games per every free console and they would earn all back because retailer would be eliminated. Plus the royalties lets say 20 Dollar/Euro profit per game. If its a Sony title ofcourse a lot more.

20*36= 720-330 would be a nice profit it would be good for Sony and good for the hardcore player.


They could offer the games at the same prices they are sold at amazon. I would sign such a contract. Are there companies in the US which do that, it would be even cheaper for them because they are just paying the retail price.


An interesting concept. Although it would be something to be implemented at the launch of a console rather than mid-life, and at launch it was suspected the PS3 cost over $800 to produce.

While it's an interesting concept, it's basically PSP GO with contract since we are removing retailer out of equation. In addition, how many people you know actually buy 36 games in the whole console cycle not to mention in 3 years? If the number of games become 6 per year or even 4 per year, it would be much more attractive but then at the same time it wouldn't make Sony much money at all.



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