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Does anyone actually expect FFX111 to increase PS3 HW in the west?



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Considering it is more popular in Japan, coupled with the fact it's on Xbox360 too, i don't see it having any significant effect on HW.



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If Microsoft's smart, they'll shell out to make sure the 360 logo finishes the end of every FFXIII ad. There's a big disruption opportunity out here for the herdcore imo.



CGI-Quality said:
peachbuggy said:
Considering it is more popular in Japan, coupled with the fact it's on Xbox360 too, i don't see it having any significant effect on HW.

It's already done it for the PS3 in the West. Now, we'll see if it does it again at release.

Surely you meant "the east"?



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CGI-Quality said:
peachbuggy said:
CGI-Quality said:
peachbuggy said:
Considering it is more popular in Japan, coupled with the fact it's on Xbox360 too, i don't see it having any significant effect on HW.

It's already done it for the PS3 in the West. Now, we'll see if it does it again at release.

Surely you meant "the east"?

No, it was a system seller for PS3 long ago. It was a sure system seller in Japan, but it was a system seller for America as well, it was the justfication of such a purchase while being $600. Had Final Fantasy XIII remained PS3 exclusive, it would be the second biggest PS3 release of the entire genration, directly behind Gran Turismo 5.


So you are therefore saying that people who want FFX111 have already purchased their PS3s in the west?



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Then, if a large amount of FF fans already have purchased a PS3 then surely the HW bump won't be as noticeable?



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If people on the Internet can call MW2 an unofficial 360 exclusive, we can call FFXIII an unofficial PS3 exclusive. :P



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CGI-Quality said:
peachbuggy said:
Then, if a large amount of FF fans already have purchased a PS3 then surely the HW bump won't be as noticeable?

It'll be a spike, perhaps 20-40,000. Nothing earth-shattering, like GT5's will be in Europe, or perhaps God of War III's in NA.


OK. That seems reasonable. So not a massive system seller, just a small system pusher really? I was only asking because iirc, the Source said there would be very few system sellers to come out for the rest of this gen. I think it was not long after the slim launch but i could be wrong!



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Things I'm surprised about:

PS3 >200K modest boost from MAG in Americas, decent boost from new releases in Japan. I wasn't expecting MAG to have any effect on HW.

ME2 below 1 million. With the opening it had in the USA it seems Others really let the side down. Another thing to compare it to Uncharted 2 on. Others caused both of these games to squeak under 1 million on week 1 when both deserved to cross that psychological milestone.

360 HW boost from ME2 in Americas. I was expecting a small lift, but not as much as 15%. That's an impressive boost from a game with a good but not incredible opening week. The overall WW HW boost for 360 is probably about as I would expect (



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peachbuggy said:
CGI-Quality said:
peachbuggy said:
Then, if a large amount of FF fans already have purchased a PS3 then surely the HW bump won't be as noticeable?

It'll be a spike, perhaps 20-40,000. Nothing earth-shattering, like GT5's will be in Europe, or perhaps God of War III's in NA.


OK. That seems reasonable. So not a massive system seller, just a small system pusher really? I was only asking because iirc, the Source said there would be very few system sellers to come out for the rest of this gen. I think it was not long after the slim launch but i could be wrong!


The Source did say that the FF brand had blown it's HW selling load in Japan earlier in 2009 with that FFVII movie release with FFXIII demo. Well we know that was a tad off base. Of course FFXIII sales outside Japan are going to be nothing like the were in Japan. The Americas pre-order chart is showing decent but not spectacular numbers, and the HW boost will be in proportion to the SW. In Japan about 1% of FFXIII buyers also bought a PS3 on the same day, it's reasonable to expect the same to happen in the rest of the world. So, it all depends on how much software the FFXIII brand will push.

Overall I agree with the source, there really aren't any more games coming for the rest of the generation that will lead to a long term upward shift in the sales of a console. I reckon even GT5 will only push HW for a relatively short period (again people saying GT5P has brought in a large number of the GT punters already).

GoW III will spike HW by a decent amount as pretty much the last highly acclaimed IP to come over from PS2 to PS3 (GoW collection doesn't count because almost no one was going to buy a PS3 just to play a game they've already played, no matter how much tweeking it got). Unless Jak 4 comes along some time; I can live in hope. I reckon Jak 4 could serve to get some PS2 -> Wii  folks to get on board with PS3.



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