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09tarheel on 13 August 2009

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 Totals




Avg % Change in game sales between generations % Change in userbase between generations
PS2-PS3 -20.74 -82.70
Xbox-Xbox 360 70.08 27.99
GC-Wii 61.05 144.19
GBA-DS 68.63 36.56
Multiplat 47.76 -51.29

 

  Biggest Gainers     Biggest Losers  
Title Avg % Change in sales  % Change in userbase Title Avg % Change in sales  % Change in userbase
1. Call of Duty (360) 325.00 29.75 1. Hot Shots Golf (PS3) -63.63 -83.20
2. Forza (360) 296.04 144.19 2. Burnout (PS3) -51.44 -82.46
3. Mario Party (Wii) 257.35 36.56 3. Prince of Persia (PS3) -47.66 -82.46
4. Mario Kart (DS) 185.50 36.56 4. Medal of Honor (360) -43.94 13.21
5. Zelda (DS) 156.25 144.19 5. Ratchet & Clank (PS3) -41.30 -82.46

Predictions are based off the average sales of last generation's games and the Average % Change in Games sales for the platform.

 

  Predictions    
Title    Last Gen Sales % Change in Game Sales Between Generations % Change in Platform Size Between Generations
       
God of War      
GoW I 3.21 -20.74 -82.70
GoW II 2.49 -20.74 -82.70
Average 2.85 -20.74 -82.70
GoW III Predicted Sales 2.26    
       
Gran Turismo      
GT 3 14.89 -20.74 -82.70
GT4 10.36 -20.74 -82.70
Average 12.63 -20.74 -82.70
GT 5 Predicted Sales 10.01    
       
Final Fantasy      
FF X 7.95 47.76 -51.29
FF XII 5.10 47.76 -51.29
Average 6.53 47.76 -51.29
FF XIII Predicted Sales 9.64    
       
Pikmin      
Pikmin I 1.63 61.05 144.19
Pikmin 2 1.06 61.05 144.19
Average 1.35 61.05 144.19
Pikmin 3 Predicted Sales 2.17    
       
Golden Sun      
GS I 1.67 68.63 36.56
GS 2 1.18 68.63 36.56
Average 1.43 68.63 36.56
GS 3 Predicted Sales 2.40    

 

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Grand Theft Auto

Last Gen Sales

% Change in sales This Gen

Platform size in m

% change in platform size

Current Gen

Current Gen #s

GTA III

13.8

-6.67

149.9

-63.64

GTA4 sales

12.88

GTAVC

16.4

-21.46

149.9

-63.64

Platform Size

54.5

GTA SA

19.93

-35.37

149.9

-63.64

    
             

Halo

        

Halo 3 Sales

9.98

Halo CE

6.43

55.21

24.2

29.75

Platform Size

31.4

Halo 2

8.43

18.39

24.2

29.75

    
             

Metal Gear Solid

        

MGS4 sales

4.12

MGS2

5.58

-26.16

125.7

-81.62

Platform Size

23.1

MGS3

4.06

1.48

125.7

-81.62

    
             

Resident Evil

        

RE5 Sales

4.63

RE Remake

1.42

226.06

21.5

153.49

Platform Size

54.5

RE 0

1.28

261.72

21.5

153.49

    

RE CV

3.21

44.24

136.7

-60.13

    

RE 4

4.65

-0.43

147.2

-62.98

    
             

Mario Party

        

MP8 Sales

6.63

MP4

2.47

168.42

21.5

142.33

Platform Size

52.1

MP5

2.08

218.75

21.5

142.33

    

MP6

1.63

306.75

21.5

142.33

    

MP7

1.53

333.33

21.5

142.33

    
             

Metroid Prime

        

MP 3 Sales

1.53

MP

2.83

-45.94

21.5

142.33

Platform Size

52.1

MP2

1.29

18.60

21.5

142.33

    




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09tarheel on 13 August 2009

Game Data

Here is the data for individual games/franchises, sorted by platform, that the first post is based on.  It became a very long post, so now different posts are split up by platform. However; that means that the chart is now spread throughout this thread.

Index

Post 2 PS2-PS2

Post 6 Xbox-XB360

Post 9 GC-Wii

Post 12 GBA-DS

Post 15 Multiplatform

First Page

Last Page

 

How to Read the Chart: "The Last Gen Sales" column is the number of copies in millions the game sold last gen. The "% change in Game Sales between Generations" column shows how much the sales of the game have changed this generation.  A negative percentage means the game has sold less this generation than the game in the franchise last generation sold. The % Change in Platform Size between generations" column, is just how this gen's platform size compares to last gen.  EX. the PS3 has currently sold 82.46% less than the PS2 has sold. Below the black font, will be a different color, which is the games(s) in the franchise from this generation, that last gen's games are being compared to.

                    

# of Games - 10

 

 

PS2-PS3
Title    Last Gen Sales % Change in Game Sales Between Generations % Change in Platform Size Between Generations
Burnout
Burnout 3 2.08 -51.44 -82.46
Burnout Paradise 1.01
Call of Duty
Call of Duty: F H 2.81 2.02 -82.46
Call of Duty: B R O 2.31 24.10 -82.46
Average 2.56 13.06 -82.46
COD 3,4 and WAW Avg sales 2.87
Gran Turismo Prologue
**GT4 P 1.36 77.21 -82.58
GT5 P Sales 2.41
Hot Shots Golf
HSG 2 1.68 -57.74 -83.20
HSG 3 2.33 -69.53 -83.20
Average 2.01 -63.63 -83.20
**HSG:OoB 0.71
Madden
Madden 2006 3.92 -67.60 -82.46
Madden 2007 3.65 -65.21 -82.46
Average 3.79 -66.40 -82.46
Madden 08,09 Avg Sales 1.27
Metal Gear Solid
MGS2 5.58 -25.63 -82.46
MGS3 4.06 2.22 -82.46
Average 4.82 -11.71 -82.46
MGS4 sales 4.15
Prince of Persa
PoP:SoT 1.88 -55.32 -82.46
PoP: WW 1.40 -40.00 -82.46
Average 1.64 -47.66 -82.46
PoP Sales 0.84
Ratchet & Clank
R&C 2.93 -49.15 -82.46
R&C:GC 2.42 -38.43 -82.46
R&C:UYA 2.34 -36.32 -82.46
Average 2.56 -41.30 -82.46
R&C F:TOD Sales 1.49
Resident Evil
RE CV 2.07 15.94 -82.46
RE 4 2.96 -18.92 -82.46
Average 2.52 -1.49 -82.46
RE5 Sales 2.40
Soul Calibur
SC II 1.77 -39.55 -82.46
SC III 0.96 11.46 -82.46
Average 1.37 -14.04 -82.46
SC IV 1.07
PS2-PS3 Total -20.74 -82.70

 
PS2-PS3


Title    Last Gen Sales % Change in Game Sales Between Generations % Change in Platform Size Between Generations Current Gen Current Gen #






Burnout


Burnout Paradise 1.01
Burnout 3 2.08 -51.44 -82.46 Platform Size 23.20






Call of Duty


COD 3,4 and WAW Avg sales 2.87
Call of Duty: F H 2.81 2.02 -82.46 Platform Size 23.20
Call of Duty: B R O 2.31 24.10 -82.46

Average 2.56 13.06 -82.46







Gran Turismo Prologue


GT5 P Sales 2.41
**GT4 P 1.36 77.21 -82.58 Platform Size 14.20






Hot Shots Golf


**HSG:OoB 0.71
HSG 2 1.68 -57.74 -83.20 Platform Size 12.40
HSG 3 2.33 -69.53 -83.20

Average 2.01 -63.63 -83.20







Metal Gear Solid


MGS4 sales 4.15
MGS2 5.58 -25.63 -82.46 Platform Size 23.20
MGS3 4.06 2.22 -82.46

Average 4.82 -11.71 -82.46







Prince of Persa


PoP Sales 0.84
PoP:SoT 1.88 -55.32 -82.46 Platform Size 23.20
PoP: WW 1.40 -40.00 -82.46

Average 1.64 -47.66 -82.46







Ratchet & Clank


R&C F:TOD Sales 1.49
R&C 2.93 -49.15 -82.46 Platform Size 23.20
R&C:GC 2.42 -38.43 -82.46

R&C:UYA 2.34 -36.32 -82.46

Average 2.56 -41.30 -82.46







Resident Evil


RE5 Sales 2.40
RE CV 2.07 15.94 -82.46 Platform Size 23.20
RE 4 2.96 -18.92 -82.46

Average 2.52 -1.49 -82.46







Soul Calibur


SC IV 1.07
SC II 1.77 -39.55 -82.46 Platform Size 23.20
SC III 0.96 11.46 -82.46

Average 1.37 -14.04 -82.46













PS2-PS3 Total
-15.67 -82.52



Majin-Tenshinhan on 13 August 2009

Was just about to post that your chart didn't fit, but you've noticed that on your own. Looking forward to seeing it once it works!



Xoj on 13 August 2009

sales are pretty much the same,
but some games would have benefit from a console that had the ps2 status last gen, going over 100 million with all demographics targeterd.
this gen it split up between all 3.



Majin-Tenshinhan on 13 August 2009

Interesting to see Resident Evil 5 have so high sales. I guess the changes they made that pissed me off made more people interested in the series. Oh well.

As for Mario Party, wow. That's no small increase.

Good chart, 09tarheel!



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09tarheel on 13 August 2009

Index

Post 2 PS2-PS2

Post 6 Xbox-XB360

Post 9 GC-Wii

Post 12 GBA-DS

Post 15 Multiplatform

First Page

Last Page

How to Read the Chart: "The Last Gen Sales" column is the number of copies in millions the game sold last gen. The "% change in Game Sales between Generations" column shows how much the sales of the game have changed this generation.  A negative percentage means the game has sold less this generation than the game in the franchise last generation sold. The % Change in Platform Size between generations" column, is just how this gen's platform size compares to last gen.  EX. the 360 has currently sold ~30% more than the Xbox has sold. Below the black font, will be a different color, which is the games(s) in the franchise from this generation, that last gen's games are being compared to.

 

     

# of Games - 10

 

Xbox-Xbox 360
Title    Last Gen Sales % Change in Game Sales Between Generations % Change in Platform Size Between Generations
Call of Duty
Call of Duty: FH 1.07 325.00 29.75
COD 2,3,4 & WAW avg sales 4.55
Dead or Alive
DoA 3 1.63 -38.04 29.75
DoA 4 1.01
The Elder Scrolls
ES Morrowind 1.83 51.37 29.75
ES : Oblivion 2.77
Fable
Fable I 2.60 16.54 29.75
Fable II 3.03
Forza
Forza I 1.01 296.04 29.75
Forza II 4.00
Halo
Halo CE 6.43 56.14 29.75
Halo 2 8.43 19.10 29.75
Average 7.43 37.62 29.75
Halo 3 Sales 10.04
Madden
Madden 05 1.45 45.86 29.75
Madden 06 1.44 46.88 29.75
Average 1.45 46.37 29.75
Madden 07,08 Avg Sales 2.12
Medal of Honor (American Sales)
MOH: FL 0.91 -51.65 13.21
MOH: R S 0.69 -36.23 13.21
Average 0.80 -43.94 13.21
MOH:A 0.44
Mortal Kombat
MK:DA 0.84 21.43 29.75
MK vs. DC 1.02
Project Gotham Racing
PGR 1 2.14 -25.47 29.75
PGR 2 1.56 2.24 29.75
Average 1.85 -11.61 29.75
PGR 3 & 4 Avg Sales 1.60
Xbox-XB360 Total 70.08 27.99

 
Xbox-Xbox 360
Title    Last Gen Sales % Change in Game Sales Between Generations % Change in Platform Size Between Generations




Call of Duty


Call of Duty: FH 1.07 325.00 29.75
COD 2,3,4 & WAW avg sales 4.55





Dead or Alive


DoA 3 1.63 -38.04 29.75
DoA 4 1.01





The Elder Scrolls


ES Morrowind 1.83 51.37 29.75
ES : Oblivion 2.77





Fable


Fable I 2.60 16.54 29.75
Fable II 3.03





Forza


Forza I 1.01 296.04 29.75
Forza II 4.00





Halo


Halo CE 6.43 56.14 29.75
Halo 2 8.43 19.10 29.75
Average 7.43 37.62 29.75
Halo 3 Sales 10.04





Medal of Honor (American Sales)


MOH: FL 0.91 -51.65 13.21
MOH: R S 0.69 -36.23 13.21
Average 0.80 -43.94 13.21
MOH:A 0.44





Mortal Kombat


MK:DA 0.84 21.43 29.75
MK vs. DC 1.02





Project Gotham Racing


PGR 1 2.14 -25.47 29.75
PGR 2 1.56 2.24 29.75
Average 1.85 -11.61 29.75
PGR 3 & 4 Avg Sales 1.60





Xbox-XB360 Total
72.71 28.50


Aion on 13 August 2009

Well compare for GTA compare the amount of ps2 to Xbox 360/PS2 consoles. Thats why GTA IV didn't sell as much as past games. Other wise nice to see new IP's stepping it up. Good job with this list.



 

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Majin-Tenshinhan on 14 August 2009

Good to see that a Nintendo-made portable Zelda beat an old port (an old port of the best Zelda ever made, though) and a Capcom-made average Zelda.



09tarheel on 14 August 2009

Index

Post 2 PS2-PS2

Post 6 Xbox-XB360

Post 9 GC-Wii

Post 12 GBA-DS

Post 15 Multiplatform

First Page

Last Page

How to Read the Chart: "The Last Gen Sales" column is the number of copies in millions the game sold last gen. The "% change in Game Sales between Generations" column shows how much the sales of the game have changed this generation.  A negative percentage means the game has sold less this generation than the game in the franchise last generation sold. The % Change in Platform Size between generations" column, is just how this gen's platform size compares to last gen.  EX. the PS3 has currently sold 82.46% less than the PS2 has sold. Below the black font, will be a different color, which is the games(s) in the franchise from this generation, that last gen's games are being compared to.

 

       

# of Games - 10
Gamecube-Wii
Title    Last Gen Sales % Change in Game Sales Between Generations % Change in Platform Size Between Generations




Animal Crossing


AC 2.98 8.39 144.19
Animal Crossing:CF Sales 3.23





The Legend of Zelda


Zelda:WW 4.55 16.92 144.19
Zelda:TP Sales 5.32





Madden


Madden 06 0.42 111.90 144.19
Madden 07 0.40 122.50 144.19
Average 0.41 117.20 144.19
Madden 08,09 Avg Sales 0.89





Mario


Mario Sunshine 6.28 28.50 144.19
Mario Galaxy Sales 8.07





Mario Kart


Mario Kart DD 6.96 145.69 144.19
MK Wii Sales 17.10





Mario Party


MP4 2.47 168.83 144.19
MP5 2.08 219.23 144.19
MP6 1.63 307.36 144.19
MP7 1.53 333.99 144.19
Average 1.93 257.35 144.19
MP8 Sales 6.64





Metroid Prime


MP 2.83 -45.94 144.19
MP2 1.29 18.60 144.19
Average 2.06 -13.67 144.19
MP 3 Sales 1.53





Paper Mario


PM:tTYD 2.05 36.59 144.19
SPM Sales 2.80





Smash Bros.


SB Melee 7.08 20.90 144.19
SB Brawl Sales  8.56





Super Monkey Ball


SMB 1 1.37 -8.03 144.19
SMB 2 1.35 -6.67 144.19
Average 1.36 -7.35 144.19
SMB:BB 1.26





GC-Wii Total
61.05 144.19


Majin-Tenshinhan on 14 August 2009

Pretty interesting, nice to see that Nintendo is up on almost all accounts. There are tons of games I'd suggest to add to the list, but I'm afraid their data probably doesn't exist. One such example is the Prince of Persia-games.