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ssj12 said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
PlayStation can't be the strongest brand name considering that Nintendo is.

 

see my reason above, its the main reason.

if Nintendo won the last two generations they would have the stronger brand name. Sadly, Nintendo never had a strong brand name. SEGA had an equally strong name before the PS1 came to market. After this generation Nintendo will finally truly have the strongest brand name. They just need to expand the market like the PS2 did.

You might want to ask someone who's been around those years, as you came into the world in 87-88 =) Nintendo by far dominated the market in popularity by the era of the SNES, when you were about 5 years old. By the tikme of the PS1, everything was attributed to Nintendo. It wasnt until the PS2 that people started using the Playstation name as the reference point for gaming. The popular opinion for Sony systems didnt occur until the mid/late 90s. Yet I can see from your perspective, thinking that its always been that way, as you were too young to recall the early days of console wars. =)

 



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kjj4t9rdad said:
izaaz101 said:
BladeOfGod said:
N64 + GameCube+ DS+Wii= around 250 million units sold


PS1+PS2+PSP+PS3= around 321 million sold.

So, Nintendo got its ass kicked since PlayStation was launched

Sorry, but only NES can barely compare with any PlayStation console.

And comparing COMPANY like NIntendo and brand like PlayStation? More than fair.

Tell me the name of 1 nintendo console who sold 100 million? NO, tell me name of the nintendo console who sold 90 million? NO, tell me nintendo console who sold 80 million? NO, tell me... ah screw this i can go like this for ever.

Even if nintendo win this generation ( probably will ) its still:

PlayStation 2: Nintendo 1.

So YES, PlayStation IS the strongest name in video games. The only thing Nntendo have is Mario. Wii sports probably wouldn't sell above 20 million if they weren't bundled in EU and USA



I wonder how many replays i am gonna get from nintendo fanboys now...

I noticed that you missed (or conveniently left out) the GBA, which sold about 80M, which makes your Nintendo number up to 330 million.

So it takes nintendo 5 products to compete with Sony's 4 products.  Your are making the OP's point for him.

 

problem here is that the current gen isnt over yet. cant really make a tally on systems currently being sold. Its very possible that the Wii might sell as well or better than the PS2, which will make those numbers VERY close...plus DS and PSP are still active as well.

 



The brandname this is really interesting, although Kasz already said everything important with some other guys posting some links about brand familiarity.

Anyway, Playstation as a brand have taken a few massive hits with PSP and PS3. If we put "Playstation" and "Wii" against each other, as how well the name spreads in the public, Wii is the clear winner due to the name being so much easier to pronouonce. Most of the fifth generation PSX got called as Nintendo (for Nintendo being the synonyme for games and Playstation being hard to pronounce, people used the word that meant "gaming device" for them), now that Wii is an easier name, it's spreading much faster in the public, replacing Playstation, than the other way around.

Then, "Wii" has the advantage of being a name that can be put easilly into games, which never was a realistic possibility for "Playstation" and it's only making the brand stronger.

Also, the strength of the brand expands beyond the name into the games that are viewed as a part of it. 360 has been stealing former exclusive IP:s to multiplat from "Playstation", that is making the brand weaker (breaking the bonds in peoples eyes), and that's why M$ has put these games into so important role in their PR (if anyone ever wondered).

Today, Playstation is a strong brand, but it is (or has been) going downhill due to competition.
Currently, there shouldn't be much of a doubt about Wii being stronger brand (and even so in the future).



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ssj12 said:
the scary part is while the Wii is by far the strongest console on the market, the PlayStation does still have a stronger brand name. I still hear "I;m going to play my PlayStation." I never really hear another console in that phrase. Its either PlayStation or just Video Games.

 

This goes in cycles.

First, everything was Atari (and it played "tapes" -- even though the systems were cartridge-based (for the most part). This is not surprising as the 2600 still has sold more than Xbox 360 and PS3 and outsold the Xbox, GC, DC Saturn, and Genesis.

Then, everything was Nintendo. For a while it just about really was (the NES era).   It stayed that way, even when the Genesis was more popular.

Then it became Playstation -- because Sony took over video games.

Right now though, I have never heard anyone refer to a Wii as a Playstation (in the generic). Maybe people are becoming more educated.

 

(As for handhelds, it's a Gameboy or a DS -- and sometimes a DS is called a Gameboy).

 

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sethnintendo said:

@kjj4t9rdad

20 years plus of Sony dominance??? What are you smoking?  Your Sony 'owning" doesn't really amount to too much profit for Sony.  Nintendo's profit throughout the entire video game business is far greater than Sony could ever dream of.

 

Profit is a different subject all together and has lilttle to do with the OP's thread.  But really what that should tell you is Sony expands and pushes the consoles where Nintendo just updates thier existing console.  It is easy to make profit when you have very little R&D costs.  For example, you have the GB, GBcolor, GBA,. Ds, Dsi ect....  These are not new products, just slightly updated.  Same goes for the Wii.  Aside from the controls the Wii is an updated Game Cube.  In contrast the Playstation has drasticly improved the performance of thier consoles, not only in formats, but processing power as well.

I guess trillions of dollars in profit is not much.  Yes, Nintendo has made more profit, but thats because they charge $250 for a $100 pc. of hardware and $30 controller.



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@kjj---your seriously going to try and say the GBA is just a watered down version of teh DS.......riiiiiiighttt


and as far as pushing hardware....the GC was just a little better then the 64....righttttttttt.......


and the snes was just little better then the nes...........rrrrrriiiiiighhhhtttt......


but what do i know i am just a 5 year old right?



 

I remember around the 64 days 'everything' was still Nintendo called from non gamers, or very rarely casual gamer players. Towards end of 64 days and all the way through ps2 days it was all "gonna play playstation" no matter what the system.

for a couple of months this gen it seemed still just playstation. But now i hear people refer to 'ONLY' the Wii. Hell if I didn't purposely try and find out, I would not know who of my friends even owned a PS3. I think only 4 do. And last gen PS2 owners of my friends were probably 30 or close to everyone. Now they either own just a 360 or most own both 360 and Wii. The few that have a PS3 are immature fanboys, which i didn't know until this generation.

Since most of my friends who play games just buy shooters and sports games the 360 is easily the better choice. And i have 1 friend who reviews games now for his school magazine, so i guess 1 normal legit PS3 owner. But really found it funny how UNLOYAL they all were to their PS brand. When the price was shown, bam they all went out and bought 360's. were waiting for the new playstation before, and hadn't bought a 360. But price is a huge factor to average person, and then throw in once a few buy a 360 then the rest follow because all friends on it. Hell if I owned nothing and was deciding i woudl buy whichever had more friends to play online, and borrow games from.

They like refer to how playstation is the best and all else sucks, the wii is kiddy. Hell one of them stopped over when I was playing MP3 and he wondered what system i was playing. When I said Wii, he was like "holy shit, I thought Wii games all just looked like Wii sports graphics"



irstupid said:
I remember around the 64 days 'everything' was still Nintendo called from non gamers, or very rarely casual gamer players. Towards end of 64 days and all the way through ps2 days it was all "gonna play playstation" no matter what the system.

for a couple of months this gen it seemed still just playstation. But now i hear people refer to 'ONLY' the Wii. Hell if I didn't purposely try and find out, I would not know who of my friends even owned a PS3. I think only 4 do. And last gen PS2 owners of my friends were probably 30 or close to everyone. Now they either own just a 360 or most own both 360 and Wii. The few that have a PS3 are immature fanboys, which i didn't know until this generation.

Since most of my friends who play games just buy shooters and sports games the 360 is easily the better choice. And i have 1 friend who reviews games now for his school magazine, so i guess 1 normal legit PS3 owner. But really found it funny how UNLOYAL they all were to their PS brand. When the price was shown, bam they all went out and bought 360's. were waiting for the new playstation before, and hadn't bought a 360. But price is a huge factor to average person, and then throw in once a few buy a 360 then the rest follow because all friends on it. Hell if I owned nothing and was deciding i woudl buy whichever had more friends to play online, and borrow games from.

They like refer to how playstation is the best and all else sucks, the wii is kiddy. Hell one of them stopped over when I was playing MP3 and he wondered what system i was playing. When I said Wii, he was like "holy shit, I thought Wii games all just looked like Wii sports graphics"

off topics

 

but has anyone else noticed that insted of teh casual market being the least informed this generation is seems to be the "hardcore" crowd

 



 

kjj4t9rdad said:
sethnintendo said:

@kjj4t9rdad

20 years plus of Sony dominance??? What are you smoking?  Your Sony 'owning" doesn't really amount to too much profit for Sony.  Nintendo's profit throughout the entire video game business is far greater than Sony could ever dream of.

 

Profit is a different subject all together and has lilttle to do with the OP's thread.  But really what that should tell you is Sony expands and pushes the consoles where Nintendo just updates thier existing console.  It is easy to make profit when you have very little R&D costs.  For example, you have the GB, GBcolor, GBA,. Ds, Dsi ect....  These are not new products, just slightly updated.  Same goes for the Wii.  Aside from the controls the Wii is an updated Game Cube.  In contrast the Playstation has drasticly improved the performance of thier consoles, not only in formats, but processing power as well.

I guess trillions of dollars in profit is not much.  Yes, Nintendo has made more profit, but thats because they charge $250 for a $100 pc. of hardware and $30 controller.

 

Tell me this is a joke post.

 

Nintendo don't update their consoles?

Maybe you weren't around for the NES and SNES and N64 and GC and Wii. So the PS1 to PS2 was a bigger leap than N64 to GC???

Low R+D costs?????  WTF!!



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mesoteto said:
@kjj---your seriously going to try and say the GBA is just a watered down version of teh DS.......riiiiiiighttt


and as far as pushing hardware....the GC was just a little better then the 64....righttttttttt.......


and the snes was just little better then the nes...........rrrrrriiiiiighhhhtttt......


but what do i know i am just a 5 year old right?

 

No, what I said was the Ds is a watered down version of the Dsi and the GB is a watered down version of the GBcolor which is a water down version of the GBA.

The gap between the nes and snes is not very big.  They did make the GC alot better than the 64 but still got thier ass handed to them.

The snes was 2x's the power of the nes - 8 bit to 16 bit

the GC was 7.76x's more powerful than the 64 - 62.5 mHz to 485 mHz

the Wii is 1.5x's more powerful than the GC - 485 mHz to 729 mHz

The PS2 is 8.8x's more powerful than the ps1 - 33.87 mHz to 299 mHz

The PS3 is 10.7x's more powerful thand the ps2 - 299 mHz to 3.2 gHz