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Well, as the title says... I finally played Final Fantasy XV! - Not played the DLC episodes yet, so no spoilers for those please! Need to buy the season pass, lol.

I started my playthrough earlier this month, and finished it last night, clocking in at a 67:30 completion time... which does include side quests and exploring too, there's no way I can avoid those in a game!

Right, so I haven't really thought the structure of this through, just sort of winging it and gonna' talk about things as they come to me, but I'm gonna' start with... Chapter 13!

What the fuck...

What. The. Fuck.

Like, before I got to it, I thought to myself "Nah, it can't be as odd as people say it is", but man, it really fucks with the pace of the game and just seems... weird. Like if they just cut all that gameplay out and made a cutscene that covers it, people wouldn't be missing out whatsoever, and the fact that it lasts as long as it does was rather annoying too.

The whole chapter itself seems rather redundant and unnecessary, although it does end with a surprise revelation I suppose, so meh... oh well, it's over with now.

Right... the story itself, I can honestly say that I really enjoyed it, it was a little thin in areas, actually very thin and almost nonexistent at times, and the pacing can go fuck right off because some things took FOREVER to happen whereas other things were done with so quickly, but overall I enjoyed what I played, even if I had to question it a few times, lol.

I finally get the box art now, with those faces in the sky or whatever, they're the kings of Lucis! I quite enjoyed using the Lucii ring, the spell effects are great!

Ardyn is a pretty cool character although I wish they did more with him during the story and not all at the end... gotta' say too that in terms of design he sort of reminds me of Kefka, not sure if anyone else gets that? He's not exactly the crazy type though, he'd an odd character to say the least, but there's something about him I liked... maybe his whole backstory and motive.

As for the four main dude bros, well what can I say, I actually thought it was literally gonna' be some cheesy dude bro thing going on, but turns out they were all their own characters and of the four I thought I'd find Prompto the most annoying, but turns out I really liked him, which was a surprise lol, I felt sorry for the guy multiple times throughout the story, whereas originally I just thought he'd be the annoying cocky kid all the way through... I mean, he is both of those things to some extent, but at least they built on his character... still not sure how I feel about Ignis, he just seems too calm throughout EVERYTHING and it was weird.

Got to say I'm a bit pissed off about what happened with Luna, I'm like "Yay, we finally get to meet her!" and then minutes later "... Oh, nevermind I suppose", it was a bit sad really, and throughout the story with the flashbacks happening, I was like "Aww, sucks they couldn't be together!"... but then WAIT! The ending happens, and even the logo changes! And I was like "Yay it's a happy ending!... sort of", I don't know, it was just satisfying to see them finally together at the end, lol.

The music of the game, oh man there's some fucking AMAZING songs on there! Somnus, Hellfire, and Apocalypsis Noctis to name a few, all so amazing! although it's a shame driving around the map etc. relies on listening to music from other games (And even the film) with very few original tracks... although I really like the chocobo theme of this game, it's great! There's a lot of emotion in the songs, which I really like, and they're very fitting for the game, I'm gonna' have a proper full listen to the soundtrack at some point, but some songs I heard throughout the game will easily be among some of my favourite of the entire series!

Graphically, the game is gorgeous, there's no other way to say it really... the last big open world game I played was The Witcher 3 earlier this year, and I thought it looked great, it was, if not, one of the best looking games I've played on PS4, but honestly, Final Fantasy XV just looks so much better to me, maybe it's the colours, the lighting, the sense of scale, the extra variety, but honestly, it just looks so fucking good to me!

When I first saw the world map with the roads I thought "Wow this map isn't really that big", but trying to run from end to the other would probably take a while, and not only that, but it's just so nice to walk/run/drive around in, there's so much detail put into everything, and even though at first I was a bit iffy, I really came to enjoy the more "realistic" approach of the world, like aside from a few things (The fucking HUGE arches for starters, they didn't seem too big when I saw them in the disance, then I got up to them and... wow) it feels like a place that could actually exist somewhere. 

The sense of scale in the world is great, it nothing really seems too close or too far away, things that are big actually feel big, like with enemies, on other Final Fantasy games, I've fought enemies, and in the battle I've thought "Hmm, I wonder how big these would REALLY be", and now here we are with BIG enemies, that don't seem out of place and are really fun to fight against, especially enemies with breakable appendages, that's cool.

Now for gameplay, something that really surprised me, the battle system actually works really well... I mean, it's easy to use, incredibly easy actually, but the way it all flows together so well is very satisfying to watch. When I bought Final Fantay Type-0 and got the Episode Duscae demo, I was actually against it, it was so strange because I'd never thought of a mainline Final Fantasy game playing as it did, but as it turns out, it's really fun to use, and I really wouldn't mind if they decided to use something like it in their next game(s). The only thing I'd change is to bring back proper magic, since I went throughout the whole game without using magic flasks properly... I mean, I made some and tried them out just to see the spell effects, but I'd never get rid of a weapon to equip some flasks and use them as a primary means of attack, especially when Ignis can add elements to your weapons during fights anyway.

Overall I'm happy that I played it now instead of waiting even longer, I mean, I could have waited and maybe Chapter 13 wouldn't be a problem, maybe they'd fix every little thing that was wrong with it, but I've had the game for a year, it's one of the games that sold me on a PS4 Pro, and I'm a HUGE Final Fantasy fan, so the wait was getting more annoying  the longer it carried on, lol. I had a great time with the game, and through completing it and doing side quests I have all the trophies except a few, I just need to find all the Royal Arms, max my skills (Fishing, Cooking and Survival), and kill the Adamantoise. Seems easy enough, just not looking forward to fishing since I suck at it and find it boring anyway, lol.

So yeah... I finally played Final Fantasy XV, and as you can probably tell from reading this (If you did)... I liked it.

What did YOU think of the game? Did you play it at launch, or like me did you wait a while before playing it? If you HAVEN'T played it, what are you doing in here?! Get out!



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Bristow9091 said:

If you HAVEN'T played it, what are you doing in here?! Get out!

No, I don't want to!

 

On topic though, did you watch Kingsglaive beforehand? How did that tie in to the game? I really enjoyed the film (although with Sean Bean in it how could anyone not enjoy it? )!

Edit: Also, if it's one of the games that sold you on a PS4 Pro.... how come it took you a year to start playing it?

Last edited by Ka-pi96 - on 25 November 2017

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Ka-pi96 said:
Bristow9091 said:

If you HAVEN'T played it, what are you doing in here?! Get out!

No, I don't want to!

 

On topic though, did you watch Kingsglaive beforehand? How did that tie in to the game? I really enjoyed the film (although with Sean Bean in it how could anyone not enjoy it? )!

Edit: Also, if it's one of the games that sold you on a PS4 Pro.... how come it took you a year to start playing it?

Fine, stay, but you've been warned about spoilers! :P 

I've not actually watched Kingsglaive yet, although I do own it, bought it on bluray a few weeks back and planned to watch it after the game rather than before (I had already started the game when I bought it, lol), I've heard good things about the film, even my dad has watched it and said it was great, lol.

Why did it take me a year to start playing it? Hello? It's me! If I made a pile of my backlog games it'd be taller than you! No offence.

Actually a whole bunch of offence you short arsed fucker! :P



I liked the game a lot, it just felt massively disappointing. I never had an issue with Chapter 13 - if anything, I liked that for a change the game seemed to give us some story after forgetting entirely to do so in prior chapters, and that chapter also features what's the hardest (or for me it was at least) boss in the entire game. This being said...

The game is just a monumental mess. It's a mesh of ideas that never collide properly. Cutscenes that act like the player should have any clue about what's going on when no one really does. Blocking important information in the strategy guide. Pace of the game going in the weirdest ways (hello Chapter 12 where you go outside a train, kill three monsters then come back inside the train and the chapter is done). Combat was serviceable, but I never thought it ever evolved on the entirety of the game, leaving me to abuse warping as an easy method to cheese almost every single combat situation. Liked the main cast a lot, particulary Prompto and Noctis.

It unfortunately falls into the "weaker" Final Fantasy games for me, but still enjoyable. Also don't you freaking love all the villains this game has? It's mindblowing that Lo'qi or whatever his name was is supposedly some longtime foe of Cor, but you only see him for two seconds before blowing up. Oh, and that dude you capture in Chapter...7 I think? That Ignis lets escape? Yeah, no shame in saying you don't remember him because the game didn't remember him after that. Seriously, what a monumental mess. At least Ardyn is extremely cool.



Bristow9091 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

No, I don't want to!

 

On topic though, did you watch Kingsglaive beforehand? How did that tie in to the game? I really enjoyed the film (although with Sean Bean in it how could anyone not enjoy it? )!

Edit: Also, if it's one of the games that sold you on a PS4 Pro.... how come it took you a year to start playing it?

Fine, stay, but you've been warned about spoilers! :P 

I've not actually watched Kingsglaive yet, although I do own it, bought it on bluray a few weeks back and planned to watch it after the game rather than before (I had already started the game when I bought it, lol), I've heard good things about the film, even my dad has watched it and said it was great, lol.

Why did it take me a year to start playing it? Hello? It's me! If I made a pile of my backlog games it'd be taller than you! No offence.

Actually a whole bunch of offence you short arsed fucker! :P

Firstly, you're a big meanie!

Also, get watching the film already!



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My opinion: Great game, held back by some poorly designed sections (such as Chapter 13 and Costlemark Tower) and some poor storytelling choices (such as killing off Luna so soon after meeting her that you don't have time to form an emotional attachment to her, making her death feel meaningless).



Wright said:

I liked the game a lot, it just felt massively disappointing. I never had an issue with Chapter 13 - if anything, I liked that for a change the game seemed to give us some story after forgetting entirely to do so in prior chapters, and that chapter also features what's the hardest (or for me it was at least) boss in the entire game. This being said...

The game is just a monumental mess. It's a mesh of ideas that never collide properly. Cutscenes that act like the player should have any clue about what's going on when no one really does. Blocking important information in the strategy guide. Pace of the game going in the weirdest ways (hello Chapter 12 where you go outside a train, kill three monsters then come back inside the train and the chapter is done). Combat was serviceable, but I never thought it ever evolved on the entirety of the game, leaving me to abuse warping as an easy method to cheese almost every single combat situation. Liked the main cast a lot, particulary Prompto and Noctis.

It unfortunately falls into the "weaker" Final Fantasy games for me, but still enjoyable. Also don't you freaking love all the villains this game has? It's mindblowing that Lo'qi or whatever his name was is supposedly some longtime foe of Cor, but you only see him for two seconds before blowing up. Oh, and that dude you capture in Chapter...7 I think? That Ignis lets escape? Yeah, no shame in saying you don't remember him because the game didn't remember him after that. Seriously, what a monumental mess. At least Ardyn is extremely cool.

Are you referring to the Ravus boss fight? Felt like it took forever to kill him, and he had an annoying tendency to one shot party members, lol. As for boss fights, I wish there were more... it was severely lacking in that department, or just in villains as a whole for that matter... but yeah, Ardyn is cool, but also very odd at the same time, lol, still wish they did more with him though... I really enjoyed the final battle with him, that was great in my opinion, although it reminded me of Final Fantasy X where the final boss fight isn't as epic as the one before it... Braska's Final Aeon and Ifrit in this case were both far better boss fights... god I love the music that plays during the Ifrit fight!



shikamaru317 said:
My opinion: Great game, held back by some poorly designed sections (such as Chapter 13 and Costlemark Tower) and some poor storytelling choices (such as killing off Luna so soon after meeting her that you don't have time to form an emotional attachment to her, making her death feel meaningless).

Like I said, t7hat actually pissed me off, it felt like I played through this HUGE build up throughout the game, and then I finally get to her and... she's gone. Was a bit of a shitty move lol, although it was really nice to see them together at the end of the game, so I guess there's that.



I gave the game a 89 out of 100.


I enjoyed it despite the plot holes (that were later fixed through either additional scenes added and the DLC).

Character interactions between the 4 main characters, combat and music are my favorite aspects of the game.


Here's the pros and cons (when I finished the game during the summer)

Pros
+Great and engaging combat system
+Great character interactions and cutscenes
+Fantastic OST that also consists of songs from different FF games
+A lot of fanservice for those that have a long history and nostalgia of the game series through items, monsters, etc
+Very lengthy, takes about 45 to 50 hours to complete at normal mode
+Consists of a lot of sidequests, hunts and optional dungeons which increase replay value
+New Game+ is available
+Multiple difficulty modes
+Decent number of mini games such as Justice monsters and fishing
+Social media options such as uploading photos taken

Cons
-Magic system and summon system are not as great as previous FF games (summons are done rarely and magic you create or combine with items/elements)
-A lot of plot holes and off screen events between characters
-Major storyline involving major characters tied to DLC
-Some glitches occur where it prevents you from completing a sidequest
-Plot is weakly explained through NPCs which you have to get near and is at random at some parts alongside a lot of reading some items on throughout the game's locations
-A lot of updates which can be annoying especially if you are playing through the game and it changes something drastically.
-Driving mechanics are horrible and are on rails
-Some visual aspects look like last gen (PS3 gen or even from PSP gen)
-Some voiceovers are hard to understand due to music playing over the conversations
-Special events such as Chocobo Moogle Carnival, can only be accessed at certain times during event periods



I'm still technically playing the game, right now doing all sidequests and hunts. Trying to get the platinum trophy :)



Here's my youtube playlist (Includes Platinum demo, episode duscae demo and the main game) for the game - 340+ videos and counting

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgU0IdjAiGw4SpL4e1cfF8o7AakaOTQs9

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I guess sad is the word that defines FFXV, because all the pieces are there for something amazing, but in the end it turned out average. Some of the most questionable decisions are doing so much stuff off-screen. The emperor dies off-screen, Noctis realtionship with Regis and Luna are all implied but never shown, Ravus being in two scenes despite his importance, I just don't get it. Especially when they introduce "villains" like Loqi that die immediately, i mean why not use that space to characterize one of the existing villains? At least the gameplay and party characters were enjoyable, i guess...
I'm waiting for all the dlc to come out to see if they can fix some of my issues, but by now I've already accepted that this game is just never going to be as good as I was hoping.



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