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Mummelmann said:
Kai_Mao said:

It still has potential to have another decent year, even if its probably the last year of actual support from Nintendo for the 3DS. Why just drop it completely right away when the Switch is still in its infancy. PS3 and X360 got some support even when their successors came around. Funny that we used to criticize Nintendo of completely dropping support of their old consoles the year (or two years) they release new ones. And they said they will continue to support 3DS for this year. 

Well, the problem is that it could keep the Switch from gaining proper traction. If it was the go-to alternative for both home console and handheld more or less right away, it would have a much larger potential market. Then again; there's no guarantee that such a transition would be wholly favorable for Nintendo overall. But it makes me wonder about the whole merging libraries plan, as long as they keep the 3DS, they also keep dividing their developer efforts, and this leads to extended development cycles that plagued the 8th gen for them, and with the expectedly unimpressive 3rd party support and only being a home console extension for now, the Switch might suffer under this idea in 2017 and first half of 2018. If they want any hopes of attracting customers outside of the conventional loop, they need to hit the ground running, devices rarely, if ever, become trendy a year or more into the life cycle. On the other hand; I don't think the Switch will appeal to the mass market to any significant degree.

Long story short; it seems really poorly planned, which is worrying. They're still behaving like a company that doesn't understand the market and its various segments and demographics. We'll see how it pans out, but having the 3DS exist alongside the Switch defeats part of the purpose of having a hybrid console, at least for the handheld segment of the market.

PS: The 3DS is really on its last legs and has been nosediving yoy for some time, I don't know how you define a "decent year", but it could actually be a bad year for it and the payoff for killing it may be bigger than keeping it barely floating.

I'm not saying the 3DS isn't on its last legs, and yes, I think last year was decent considering how old it is. Though a lot of credit goes to Pokemon Go. Not only did Sun and Moon sell 14 million in only 3 months or so, but XY, ORAS, and even the VC OG games found new life throughout the year as the Go phenomenon became the big news in the second half of the year. Even the 3DS saw a jump, not a big jump, but a jump nonetheless.

And as for the 3DS existing defeating the purpose, I guess the Fire Emblem direct sorta signifies what they plan to do moving forward for now. They not only have a 3DS game coming this year, but also a new mainline title coming next year as well as Fire Emblem Warriors coming on both New 3DS and Switch.

And as for mass market, we'll just have to see as more things are coming within Nintendo's business. Mobile and merchandise are only part of their plans. Of course, the others I'm talking about (ie, films, theme parks, etc.), aren't there in the short-term (1-2 years) future, but can pay dividends later on once they become reality.



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Kai_Mao said:

I'm not saying the 3DS isn't on its last legs, and yes, I think last year was decent considering how old it is. Though a lot of credit goes to Pokemon Go. Not only did Sun and Moon sell 14 million in only 3 months or so, but XY, ORAS, and even the VC OG games found new life throughout the year as the Go phenomenon became the big news in the second half of the year. Even the 3DS saw a jump, not a big jump, but a jump nonetheless.

And as for the 3DS existing defeating the purpose, I guess the Fire Emblem direct sorta signifies what they plan to do moving forward for now. They not only have a 3DS game coming this year, but also a new mainline title coming next year as well as Fire Emblem Warriors coming on both New 3DS and Switch.

And as for mass market, we'll just have to see as more things are coming within Nintendo's business. Mobile and merchandise are only part of their plans. Of course, the others I'm talking about (ie, films, theme parks, etc.), aren't there in the short-term (1-2 years) future, but can pay dividends later on once they become reality.

That's a pretty grounded and smart way of thinking; it's too soon to know and we have to wait and see how their different projects eventually tie together and what results they yield. I think they'll do something a lot more mainstream friendly in the future, if they still want to have a marked presence in that segment (and I think they do, since it's by far the biggest cash cow of any industry).



End of 2016 hardware sales:

Wii U: 15 million. PS4: 54 million. One: 30 million. 3DS: 64.8 million. PSVita: 15.2 million.

Mummelmann said:
Eh, so they're clinging on to the 3DS still? This plan of their is making less and less sense by the day.

The opposite would make no sense at all, suddlenly drop an entire userbase of 70m that keeps growing and invest everything in something that just started and still has few people on it, brilliant.



All it has to do is make me want a Switch and I'll go out and get one right then and there (or at least holiday when Xenoblade comes out).



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If they want to reach their goal of 16 mil or more then they should go all out. Still can't believe that XC2 will come this year. Mario and this probably release close to each other...or not...we'll see. Need to see more on E3.



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Pokemon Stars would be huge despite being expected. Also keen to see footage for the new Fire Emblem.



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Seeing 3DS support is both surprising, given how long the console is the market and how Nintendo barely supports consoles in their final days, and also expected.

The game we are going to see were based on decisions made 1 to 2 years ago, depending on how long development takes on 3DS.
A year ago (or more), now one really know how successful was going to be and betting everything on the console would be a risk to great to take. Imagine killing 3DS so that the Switch could thrive and then see lukewarm reception to Switch... it would be a disaster.

My take is that this is probably the last wave of meaningful support from both Nintendo and 3rd parties and next E3 will show how the transition from 3DS to Switch has started full force (in 2017).

I really hope they can announce GC, Saturn and Dreamcast games to Switch VC. I don't really expect it as what Nintendo has indicated about the upcoming online plans show otherwise, but it would be really awesome!

Also, i'm torn between a DE and a live press conference. Hope they can actually do both! :)



Goodnightmoon said:
Mummelmann said:
Eh, so they're clinging on to the 3DS still? This plan of their is making less and less sense by the day.

The opposite would make no sense at all, suddlenly drop an entire userbase of 70m that keeps growing and invest everything in something that just started and still has few people on it, brilliant.

Keeps growing? 3DS is on its last legs. I believe the DS was selling at least twice as much weekly when they released the 3DS and the 3DS is currently selling about 1/5 of what the PS4 is doing, and the PS4 isn't the massive beast that many claim it is either (certainly no Wii or PS2).

How will the Switch gain any real momentum with developer efforts still being divided between platforms and the 3DS offering a handheld option that isn't a Switch? This is precisely what Nintendo claimed they wanted to avoid in the future. It also makes the new hybrid only half as useful for potential customers. Or are you one of those who honestly believes that people have always wanted to take their home console games on the go? That was a brilliant tactic for the Vita anyway. Things that just started need purchasing incentive and market constants (software in this case). Nintendo were having major issues in the 8th gen when they started making HD games and they were forced to support two platforms at once, seeing their release schedule being filled with one massive hit that shares with the Wii U, one remastered Mario Kart, Splatoon 2 that seemingly has no visible improvements since the first one and perhaps 3D Mario closer to the holidays kind of gives the impression that they didn't learn their lesson after all this. It's not 3rd parties will pump out the big titles to help them between their own releases, despite the famous list of logos and empty promises (that have been given three generations in a row with little to show for it).

The plan is looking confusing from where I'm sitting, and I don't see how you aren't a bit confused as well unless you're sitting on some secret inside information. So, yes, it would make a lot more sense. I wonder, have you ever actually realized that Nintendo have made a mistake or made some weird choices over the years? You're allowed to be critical and skeptical about decisions that are made even if you enjoy their products. Heck; you should be, it's good to be a vocal customer who asks questions, it keeps these companies on their toes.



End of 2016 hardware sales:

Wii U: 15 million. PS4: 54 million. One: 30 million. 3DS: 64.8 million. PSVita: 15.2 million.