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TheSting said:
I still believe Ren woke up her force powers inadvertently when he was trying to mind read her. She knew after that encounter.

Woke up her force powers? It's not a fairy tale, it's STAR WARS! Oh! I've just woke up my force powers because some guy wanted to do a mind trick on me. She didn't ever know what a mind trick was before! She Could be sensitive but she couldn't know. It's the kind of a shortcut that director's of the movie tried to use. They were succesful... sadly... because everyone wants to be a believer. It was a disaster. She knew the power that he was trying to pull on her. She didn't know nothing. 



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Volterra_90 said:
Virlando said:

It's just stupid. Driving podracer has nothing to do to be a trained jedi. He had the reflexes of a Jedi but he learned how to be one and how to use the force for a long time. You are ignorant and I am waisting my time with you. I called it. Sorry, as I mean to respect al the beings.. Ypou just don't want to see it through. Take care now, bye bye then.



Ad-hominem attack. I'm getting used to them on the internet. It means that I won't waste more time. Take care, then ;)

My friend, I agree with you. We look at the things from a defferent perspecctive. I am sorry if you a hurt by my response. I am so annoyed by many visions here. I am just upset. That's all. I really wish you best. If we ever meet in the real meaningful life, then I will buy you a proper pint. I really will. Just to celebrate life. But now, in the regard of STAR WARS, I will be fighting until Zeus will strike all of the blindness and put everyone to eternal sleep. Because I cannot understand how blind we are.





Yes, it sucks. All the way. But let us hope for ... a new hope? hmmm. It would be a third time now... ;)



I watched it again, and now I know that I dont like for sure. People are blinded by nostalgia for the first film.

Spoilers below, obviously

1) The music is recycled and lackluster. Nostalgia writeoff, the prequels introduced fantastic new pieces.

2)Kylo loses ALL menace when he takes of his helmet for Rey just because she asks. Whiny tantrum kid.

3) Kylo is master of the Knights of Ren, kills all of Luke's students, can barely defeat Finn, loses to Rey who is total noob. Is Luke Skywalker that bad of teacher? What about Snope, he cant teach either?

4)Rey is stronger than the Chosen One (Anakin) in the period of what was maybe a week.

5)Rey knows too much for being a loner on a desert planet. How does she know how to fly all these ships? Especially one which she herself called 'just a piece of junk'? For a piece of junk, why does she know what modifications had been made to it and where everything is?

6) She knows Han Solo, doesnt know Millenium Falcon. But she knows who stole the Millenium Falcon the last three times.

7) The flashback from Luke's saber shows the big alien that gives the portions holding her hand, saying 'quiet girl'. If she is an important child, why was she left with someone who gives her almost no food, and tries to steal BB-8 from her?

8) Finn is the worlds worst storm trooper. Raised from very early age for one thing, he cant even do it. He caresses a dying stormtrooper in the opening scene, but then immediately shows no hesitation in killing dozens upon dozens of his former comrades. Where did he get his sense of humor? Did he and his stormtrooper buddies he mauled crack jokes in training?

9) First order is a small fragmented cult idolizing the Empire; somehow builds a planet sized Death Star while Leia and the New Republic twiddle their thumbs.

10) Too many coincidences (Poe's escape, finding the Falcon, Rey running right up to and knowing how to operate a random smuggler ship control panel to save Finn by shutting the doors, Han and Chewie finding the Falcon first, Han taking them straight to Luke's lightsaber, Rey just knows how to do force suggestion despite never knowing what that even was.)

11) Phasma not trying to alert ANYONE when sitting at the terminal while the heroes stand in the corner to talk about their plan)

12) Han and Leia just talking plot ("We lost our son" "I just went to do what I knew")

13) First Order would risk destroying BB-8 by blowing up Maz Kanadas cantina (and also bombing Jakku), but doesnt just use the the Starkiller weapon and just blow up the planet.

14) People say Kylo Ren was inexperienced in lightsaber duels, first, thats bs, second, when fighting Finn, he shows definite signs of control and mastery of his saber. He suddenly loses all form fighting Rey. And he lets her sit there with her eyes closed when he can force push her into the giant chasm?

15) Kylo can knock people out with the force and manipulate their limbs; he even throws Rey into a tree. WHY EVEN HAVE A LIGHTSABER DUEL?

16) Luke is standing on a random island where there is no Jedi Temple in sight. He just stood there without food for 10+ years?

17) Cheesy dialog...("Whats a Rathnar? THATS a Rathnar,", "What?" "....WRONG FUSE (dramatic zoom)", "Help me father" "Anything" "(STAB) thank yoooou.", "THATSSS MYYY SHIIIPP",

Im dragging on so ill stop there. All that being sad its not a bad movie, but no way in the deep dark recesses of hell is better that than any OT film.



Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda!!!!


Arminillo... I agree. Now, after watching the movie, I just cannot stop to laught :) It was silly. Just a silly, stupid movie which should awake our nostalgy and becme a new beginning. I thing it finished before it started.



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Arminillo said:
I watched it again, and now I know that I dont like for sure. People are blinded by nostalgia for the first film.

Spoilers below, obviously

1) The music is recycled and lackluster. Nostalgia writeoff, the prequels introduced fantastic new pieces.

2)Kylo loses ALL menace when he takes of his helmet for Rey just because she asks. Whiny tantrum kid.

3) Kylo is master of the Knights of Ren, kills all of Luke's students, can barely defeat Finn, loses to Rey who is total noob. Is Luke Skywalker that bad of teacher? What about Snope, he cant teach either?

4)Rey is stronger than the Chosen One (Anakin) in the period of what was maybe a week.

5)Rey knows too much for being a loner on a desert planet. How does she know how to fly all these ships? Especially one which she herself called 'just a piece of junk'? For a piece of junk, why does she know what modifications had been made to it and where everything is?

6) She knows Han Solo, doesnt know Millenium Falcon. But she knows who stole the Millenium Falcon the last three times.

7) The flashback from Luke's saber shows the big alien that gives the portions holding her hand, saying 'quiet girl'. If she is an important child, why was she left with someone who gives her almost no food, and tries to steal BB-8 from her?

8) Finn is the worlds worst storm trooper. Raised from very early age for one thing, he cant even do it. He caresses a dying stormtrooper in the opening scene, but then immediately shows no hesitation in killing dozens upon dozens of his former comrades. Where did he get his sense of humor? Did he and his stormtrooper buddies he mauled crack jokes in training?

9) First order is a small fragmented cult idolizing the Empire; somehow builds a planet sized Death Star while Leia and the New Republic twiddle their thumbs.

10) Too many coincidences (Poe's escape, finding the Falcon, Rey running right up to and knowing how to operate a random smuggler ship control panel to save Finn by shutting the doors, Han and Chewie finding the Falcon first, Han taking them straight to Luke's lightsaber, Rey just knows how to do force suggestion despite never knowing what that even was.)

11) Phasma not trying to alert ANYONE when sitting at the terminal while the heroes stand in the corner to talk about their plan)

12) Han and Leia just talking plot ("We lost our son" "I just went to do what I knew")

13) First Order would risk destroying BB-8 by blowing up Maz Kanadas cantina (and also bombing Jakku), but doesnt just use the the Starkiller weapon and just blow up the planet.

14) People say Kylo Ren was inexperienced in lightsaber duels, first, thats bs, second, when fighting Finn, he shows definite signs of control and mastery of his saber. He suddenly loses all form fighting Rey. And he lets her sit there with her eyes closed when he can force push her into the giant chasm?

15) Kylo can knock people out with the force and manipulate their limbs; he even throws Rey into a tree. WHY EVEN HAVE A LIGHTSABER DUEL?

16) Luke is standing on a random island where there is no Jedi Temple in sight. He just stood there without food for 10+ years?

17) Cheesy dialog...("Whats a Rathnar? THATS a Rathnar,", "What?" "....WRONG FUSE (dramatic zoom)", "Help me father" "Anything" "(STAB) thank yoooou.", "THATSSS MYYY SHIIIPP",

Im dragging on so ill stop there. All that being sad its not a bad movie, but no way in the deep dark recesses of hell is better that than any OT film.

I concurr.

Kaylo is a kid with tantrums that is all his character is about.





Virlando said:

TheSting said:
I still believe Ren woke up her force powers inadvertently when he was trying to mind read her. She knew after that encounter.

Woke up her force powers? It's not a fairy tale, it's STAR WARS! Oh! I've just woke up my force powers because some guy wanted to do a mind trick on me. She didn't ever know what a mind trick was before! She Could be sensitive but she couldn't know. It's the kind of a shortcut that director's of the movie tried to use. They were succesful... sadly... because everyone wants to be a believer. It was a disaster. She knew the power that he was trying to pull on her. She didn't know nothing. 

 


When the Saber was calling her she felt it. She didn't want to believe it though and tried to run away. It's been a long time since the Emperor fell. There have been stories told you know. Probably embellished and people who weren't there during actually saying they were. You don't know whether she's heard stories about the Force mind controlling. I say when she was fighting him back during their interrogation she realized it was true and also what she was able to do. Not to Ren but a weak minded individual. She's naturally strong in the Force. You can see that right?

 

& what do you mean it's not a fairy tale it's Star Wars. It's a movie based on shit that's not possible. What are you talking about with that? 



amp316 said:
Gourmet said:
I expected no better honestly. Take off your nostalgia glasses. The only decent space opera to ever appear in video format is LOGH.

It has nothing to do with nostalgia.  Many consider Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back to be the two best Sci-fi movies of all time.  This movie couldn't compare with either of those two in any way except for special effects.  Even the lightsaber duel was was badly choreographed and clunky.  It looked like two kids playing with toy lightsabers.

 


Sorry but I think it has A LOT to do with nastalgia.  Star Wars has always made little sense and been silly  - but been stronger than the sum of its parts.  This movie was better than most Star Wars movies in every way, and I enjoyed it a lot!



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

Virlando said:
Volterra_90 said:

Ad-hominem attack. I'm getting used to them on the internet. It means that I won't waste more time. Take care, then ;)

My friend, I agree with you. We look at the things from a defferent perspecctive. I am sorry if you a hurt by my response. I am so annoyed by many visions here. I am just upset. That's all. I really wish you best. If we ever meet in the real meaningful life, then I will buy you a proper pint. I really will. Just to celebrate life. But now, in the regard of STAR WARS, I will be fighting until Zeus will strike all of the blindness and put everyone to eternal sleep. Because I cannot understand how blind we are.



Surely you're passionate about the subject, I won't try to change your mind. But I'm up to the pint ;)





Sounds like a formula movie designed to milk suckers out of their money.