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Chrizum said:
Exactly what Fuzzmosis said. If this trend continues, you'll be able to play 8-10 games and then need to upgrade your hard-drive. What does this sound like? Oh yeah, A FREAKIN PC.

What's next, videocard upgrade required to play Killzone 2?

 I personally don't play 8-10 games at a time. I might be in the middle of 2 or 3 in any given, but that's about it. So after beating DMC4, I would just delete it and install the next game. It's a bit of a pain if you've deleted the game and all of sudden just had an urge to play a bit of DMC4 and then had to deal with the 25min install. Otherwise, it's not that big of a deal, especially if the tradeoff is zero load times. 



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Coglestop said:
PC gaming isn't on life support, that's a common myth. It's just a different market that sells different TYPES of games.(Indie games, MMO's, RTS games and a thriving casual market)

No, the PC game market is dying and it always has been.

At least that's what I've been told for the past 15 years.




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Coglestop said:
PC gaming isn't on life support, that's a common myth. It's just a different market that sells different TYPES of games.(Indie games, MMO's, RTS games and a thriving casual market)

I was just joking. I was fishing for a bite from naznatips.

jhlennon1 said:
Coglestop said:
PC gaming isn't on life support, that's a common myth. It's just a different market that sells different TYPES of games.(Indie games, MMO's, RTS games and a thriving casual market)

I was just joking. I was fishing for a bite from naznatips.

Yes, but he bit instead, so I responded to another PC attacking post



naznatips said:
Chrizum said:
Exactly what Fuzzmosis said. If this trend continues, you'll be able to play 8-10 games and then need to upgrade your hard-drive. What does this sound like? Oh yeah, A FREAKIN PC.

What's next, videocard upgrade required to play Killzone 2?

Uh, most PCs come with hard drives above 300GBs even for the cheapest models today. The largest games take 15GB of Hard Drive space at most. Most games are around 3-4GB or HD space. You can also buy a 500GB external hard drive for the PC for less than Microsoft charges for a 20GB hard drive upgrade for the 360. Not to mention you can build a PC for $500 that easily runs every game out or coming out in the near future on the PS3 and Xbox 360 with far better graphics, resolution, and framerate. So don't degrade the PC by comparing it to the consoles.


Where exactly did I degrade the PC? I have a PC that's about 3 times stronger than the PS3, and I love playing games on it.

But that's not the point. The point is, consoles are DIFFERENT from the PC, and with good reason. Gaming on the PC is not user-friendly - at all. The selling point of consoles is you buy the console, you buy the games, you pop the games in your console and - PLAY.

What's the PS3 doing? Offering a gazillion different SKUs, a HDD, games that require installations therefore taking up space therefore requiring eventual HDD upgrades. If I wanted to upgrade my gaming system, I'd go PC gaming. Seeing I already own a PC to play shooters and PC exclusives, I want my PS3 to be a console, not a gimped PC.

Yes, I have a PS3, and yes, I'm starting to hate it. 



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The PC market is not dying, it definitely contracted considerably in the early 2000s but I believe that recently it was doing better. Keep in mind that the way they measure success in PC gaming is less straight forward than it is in console land.

For consoles, all they gotta do is add up total sales and voila. If you count in the amount of revenue generated by MMOs like WoW and the amount of transactions from people trading game assets for real money, then the PC market has seen tremendous growth.



OH NO!!!!!! 25 MINUTES!!

If that is too long for some of you, how about you do the installation then go watch an episode of a show, or bake some cookies, read a book etc.

If it helps reduce the load times, then it is definitely worth it.



@Chrizum

I completely agree. I like PC gaming for certain aspects like easier controls and mod-capability. I like consoles for other things like ease of play, etc. What the 360 and PS3 have been doing is taking a lot of the positives AND negatives from PC gaming and making it part of consoles. I'm not particularly sure I'm liking it so far.



Ah, sorry Chrizum, I misinterpreted your posts.

@ darconi: What positives have they taken? Mods work for UT3 on the PC version but the tools to make the mods only exist on the PC and they can only be transfered to the PS3 via storage device... and I don't even want to get into comparing the controls. They haven't advanced in 10 years.

Again I think this issue is being blown slightly out of proportion. If it does make the PS3 version run much faster, it's certainly not a bad thing except for those poor suckers who bought the 20GB PS3s.



@naz

Some of the positives are DLC. Being able to do some mini-expansions are nice and general online capability is nice (this is the first gen to really have it anywhere near what PC's do). And patches I see both as a good and bad thing. Sometimes you need the ability to do patches, no matter how much QA you do.

Unfortunately what I see right now is that consoles are bastardizing the PC and so combining the negatives of PCs (too many sku's, lack of simple plug/play) with the negatives of consoles (not as much customizing options, adding costs to free things on PC like xbox live, etc).