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fkusumot on 31 December 2007
What if nobody wins the high-definition DVD format wars? That increasingly looks to be the situation for the next-generation DVD technology, which is available to consumers in two incompatible formats.

Not many consumers are interested in even taking a look. According to research by NPD Group, only 11 percent of HDTV set owners strongly intend to buy a Blu-ray or HD DVD player by next spring. Almost three-quarters of those HDTV owners surveyed said that standard DVD was good enough for them.

As more consumers buy HDTVs, and the price of dual format players drop, an uneasy truce may descend. With the studios in the United States collectively making $16.5 billion in worldwide video sales, according to Mr. Adams, companies will be loath to miss an opportunity to make money by allying themselves with one high-definition DVD format over the other. And then, the once-unthinkable could happen.

“When high-definition DVD reaches its tipping point, studios will have to release their movies in both HD DVD and Blu-ray,” Mr. Adams said. “No studio will be able to afford not to.”


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totalwar23 on 31 December 2007

All I know is that at $300 or $200, there's no way I'm purchasing HD-DVD or Blu-ray player.



famousringo on 31 December 2007

We send in early adopters to fight the HD war over there so we don't have to fight it at home.



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DalekLord on 31 December 2007

Blu-Ray has benefits for games but is pointless (as is HD-DVD) for anything else. DVD is just fine & dandy.



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KBG29 on 31 December 2007

It is funny that many think we will end up with to formats for high def. I think thouse people need to sit back a little further and see the whole picture. Say in 5 years we had this situation:

Player Sales Market share
Dual format HD players = 40%
Blu-ray players = 20%
HD-DVD players = 20%
SD-DVD players = 20%

Now assuming that all of the Movie studios were dual format, and Movie sales were about equal to player market share, this is what software would look like:

Movie Market Share
Blu-Ray = 60%
HD-DVD = 20%
SD-DVD = 20%

But, wait a second what is the point of owning a dual format player if all of the companies support both. Dual format players will always be more expensive than a sigle format player, and if you can get every movie on both what is the point of spending the extra cash for a dual format player.

No matter what happens (less all movie studios droping it) Blu-ray is going to sell the most software in the high def market. It is better quality for the same price. No one that has a dual format player buys Warner Movies on HD-DVD, what is the point of getting something for HD if only half the content is in HD. Harry Potter is flat out a better product on Blu-ray, it has more content and all in HD.

SO the point I hope I have got across is, if we end up in a dual format world, Blu-ray wins, if we end up in a Blu-ray only world Blu-ray wins, if Warner goes HD-DVD exclusive at any time, we will never see HD movies get past a niche market.



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Cobretti on 31 December 2007

meh your coming up with numbers out of your arse.


Also didn't US have like $99 hd dvd player sover christmas so this will bring some balance once again. This ar is far from over.

And heads up to those that think this: stop assuming every PS3 owner uses their PS3 for blue ray players it is obsurd.



fkusumot on 31 December 2007
KBG29 said:
SO the point I hope I have got across is, if we end up in a dual format world, Blu-ray wins, if we end up in a Blu-ray only world Blu-ray wins, if Warner goes HD-DVD exclusive at any time, we will never see HD movies get past a niche market.

 It doesn't look like either format is having much impact this year.



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Entroper on 31 December 2007

@KBG: You assume that dual-format player owners will buy 100% Blu-ray movies. Why?



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smbu2000 on 31 December 2007
KBG29 said:
It is funny that many think we will end up with to formats for high def. I think thouse people need to sit back a little further and see the whole picture. Say in 5 years we had this situation:

Player Sales Market share
Dual format HD players = 40%
Blu-ray players = 20%
HD-DVD players = 20%
SD-DVD players = 20%

Now assuming that all of the Movie studios were dual format, and Movie sales were about equal to player market share, this is what software would look like:

Movie Market Share
Blu-Ray = 60%
HD-DVD = 20%
SD-DVD = 20%

But, wait a second what is the point of owning a dual format player if all of the companies support both. Dual format players will always be more expensive than a sigle format player, and if you can get every movie on both what is the point of spending the extra cash for a dual format player.

No matter what happens (less all movie studios droping it) Blu-ray is going to sell the most software in the high def market. It is better quality for the same price. No one that has a dual format player buys Warner Movies on HD-DVD, what is the point of getting something for HD if only half the content is in HD. Harry Potter is flat out a better product on Blu-ray, it has more content and all in HD.

SO the point I hope I have got across is, if we end up in a dual format world, Blu-ray wins, if we end up in a Blu-ray only world Blu-ray wins, if Warner goes HD-DVD exclusive at any time, we will never see HD movies get past a niche market.

 So why exactly will owners of dual-format HD players buy 100% blu-ray movies and 0% HD-DVD movies??? It would most likely be roughly the same. ~40% each for Blu-ray/HD-DVD.




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ookaze on 31 December 2007

It's interesting because it shows what I knew all along : most people don't care at all about HD.
Flat TV is what appeals them.
And if movies are released on both formats, then Blu-Ray will win, as Sony owned releases will never be out for HD-DVD. Thus, HD-DVD won't ever have 100 % of the movies.
So their explanation doesn't make sense.



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