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snfr said:

And if anyone thinks that Sony will finish 3rd next gen because of that... well... I think Sony doesn't care at all how they finish in the console war as long as they sell many units of the PS4.


lol and what is the console wars if not selling many units?? =)



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Vertigo-X said:
geddesmond2 said:
VXIII said:
geddesmond2 said:
twesterm said:
snfr said:

Want to add something to my previous post.

When I first read the interview in this thread I knew that comments like "Sony just waits so that they can copy Nintendo and MS." will come up. Seriously guys, if you hate Sony then do it for your own and don't write BS like this. It's just annoying, so stop it. (Why can't this being considered trolling?! btw...)


Why?

Sony isn't keen on innovating, they'd rather let other people do that and then improve on their designs. 

They saw what Microsoft did with Live and made the PSN based off of that.  They looked at what people liked and didn't like to make it.

They saw how Nintendo captured a new marked with the Wii and made the Move.  They decided to make a Wii that the casual crowd could still enjoy but also provide games the core gamers have been screaming for.

As much as you don't like people saying it, Sony is good at taking a look at what others are doing and then trying to make it their own.

Lol ok right so Sonys the only company to do that right. Like Nintendo didn't look at Atari back in the 1970s and say hey we want in on what they've got there right and Microsoft didn't magically enter the consol market last gen either, no they've always been here right. Infact Sony never released a peripheral for the PS2 that looked like a camera and could track your movements. Nah Microsoft is the only company to have that sort of technology because they are so innovative.

I mean screw Sony. If Sony never entered the consol market it would have been a much beter place because all they did was copy every other company out there.


 I know.. no matters what the case is , Sony well be just a copycat , even if they're the ones who invented and developed the DVD ( along side with Philips, Toshiba, and Time Warner for that matter) and the first ones to demonstrate an optical digital audio disc as a spin-off of laserdisc tech 3 years before any other company , and let alone the blue-ray , HDMI , CELL processor (?) , 3D ( bu bu but the Virtual Boy did it ... I'm talking about the real advanced technology ).

 

" This is from my other post ,,, OH there are hundreds of these people in here "


Hey don't forget Sonys walkman either lol. I mean all these kids walking around with there ipods in there ears listening to there favorite artists, (probably the artists signed to Sony Music lol) bashing Sony saying all they do is copy lol. This is why I said pure ignorance in my first post on this thread

... AAAannnddd this is why people like you shouldn't post. Walkmans have nothing to do with gaming.

 

Ultimately, twestern wasn't saying that copying is bad business-wise. If it enables more sales then more power to the company that does it.


Woah dude you should really grow as sense of humour. I was being sarcastic showing the ignorance of some people that post crappy points about companys with that walkman remark.

Oh and by the way Twestern stated that Sony copies and I stated they are not the only ones to do it. Take it as you will but the bottom line is hes speaking on Sony like there so evil, like all they can do is copy others even though that is not the case and they brought a lot of things to the table entertainment wise over the past 30 years.

Sonys so evil and bad when they do it but oh no when other companys do it thats ok right.



Ping_ii said:


If all your after is "sheer sales numbers" then Gran turismo series just wins over those two seires.

Go have a look GT series >>>>> halo or Gears series(sales).

GT1 -10.85m

GT2 -9.37m

GT3 -14.89m

GT4-10.54

For me previous sales are less important than this generation. Currently the PS3 does not have a Halo 3 it has a shot at it with GT5 but I am sceptical it can succeed as I believe the userbase of the PS3 has moved on. I have not doubt that it will be commercially very successful I just doubt it will be a 10 million seller, then again they could bundle it with every PS3 sold for the next 5 years that would do it aka Wii Sports styley.



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BBH said:
Mummelmann said:
Chairman-Mao said:
Mummelmann said:

If so, Sony are more stupid that I thought. Here I was, thinking that perhaps this gen had taught them something.


They lost because their console was $600, not because it came out after Xbox 360.


They are both major factors.

You fail to understand that Sony doesn't care about 'sales wars' that we think of. Sure, they aim for good sales and market share - but PS3 is likely to sell more than the 360 at the end of the day (once new Xbox  is out) and that is what they are more interested in.

Sony have failed on profit this gen, that's the main failure. Whether it was deliberate for Blu-Ray penetration, and whether it may work out slightly in the long run, we'll have to wait and see (it's doubtful).

If Sony can release a system better than the Xbox a year later, with better features and profit can be made on it - then that's what counts.

That is exactly where they failed this gen. Why should it be different next gen?

Sony lost soooo much money with the PS3, they can't afford to drop it soon. So they just have to stick with it.

The first bolded part is just an asumption from an inernet noname. Want to hear another one? I think the 360 will sell more. there you have it.



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Hephaestos said:
snfr said:

And if anyone thinks that Sony will finish 3rd next gen because of that... well... I think Sony doesn't care at all how they finish in the console war as long as they sell many units of the PS4.


lol and what is the console wars if not selling many units?? =)

^_^

What I meant was that the place on which the PS3 finishes doesn't matter.



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DirtyP2002 said:
BBH said:
Mummelmann said:
Chairman-Mao said:
Mummelmann said:

If so, Sony are more stupid that I thought. Here I was, thinking that perhaps this gen had taught them something.


They lost because their console was $600, not because it came out after Xbox 360.


They are both major factors.

You fail to understand that Sony doesn't care about 'sales wars' that we think of. Sure, they aim for good sales and market share - but PS3 is likely to sell more than the 360 at the end of the day (once new Xbox  is out) and that is what they are more interested in.

Sony have failed on profit this gen, that's the main failure. Whether it was deliberate for Blu-Ray penetration, and whether it may work out slightly in the long run, we'll have to wait and see (it's doubtful).

If Sony can release a system better than the Xbox a year later, with better features and profit can be made on it - then that's what counts.

That is exactly where they failed this gen. Why should it be different next gen?

Sony lost soooo much money with the PS3, they can't afford to drop it soon. So they just have to stick with it.

The first bolded part is just an asumption from an inernet noname. Want to hear another one? I think the 360 will sell more. there you have it.


So did M$ with the first Xbox....didn't stop them from scraping the Xbox while ps2 is still selling as we speak.



FlyingLotus said:
geddesmond2 said:

Lol great, so next generation the PS4 is going to have another bunch of crappy ports and Xbox fanboys will still be talking sales and ignoring that there consol launched first. I just thank god this is my last gen of gaming. I wouldn't be able to take another generation of pure ignorance.


Yeah i really doubt this will be your last gen of gaming. And talking sales is a good thing even if the 360 had a 1 year lead launch to have generated this many fans in a small space of time is crazy. Don't expect anyone to get killed off soon.


Theres talking sales and then theres being ignorant about it. Well our consols better because it sold 5 million more. Theres no proper discussions about sales. All we get is Xbox 360 is the better consol because it sold more. The internet was full of comments like that before September the 1st 2009 and the past few weeks those comments resurfaced. Funny how they wern't around when the ps3 was selling more.Theres a balance for both people choose to ignore it.

Also I've always said this gen would be my last gen. I've been saying it for years now and I highly doubt my opinion will change in the future either.



eggs2see said:
andremop said:
Reach said:

Xbox 720 sounds really stupid... lol


In a certain way Playstation 4 is not that good also.

It's like movies, after the big 3 it looks not as cool. I don't think it'll be called that.


Heard of this little Apple device called the iPhone 4?  Electronics arn't like movies at all, they build on the name, the brand of "Playstation", if sony feels that name is still strong then they will keep the name, if they feel it's name has been damaged too much by the ps3 or they wish to take a different approch with there next console they will change it.


I don't think there was an Iphone 2, or even an Iphone 3, just 3G, meaning the tech behind it.

Anyway... to me it's not as cool, even for Iphone. Iphone 4 is not as good as just... Iphone.



andremop said:
eggs2see said:
andremop said:
Reach said:

Xbox 720 sounds really stupid... lol


In a certain way Playstation 4 is not that good also.

It's like movies, after the big 3 it looks not as cool. I don't think it'll be called that.


Heard of this little Apple device called the iPhone 4?  Electronics arn't like movies at all, they build on the name, the brand of "Playstation", if sony feels that name is still strong then they will keep the name, if they feel it's name has been damaged too much by the ps3 or they wish to take a different approch with there next console they will change it.


I don't think there was an Iphone 2, or even an Iphone 3, just 3G, meaning the tech behind it.

Anyway... to me it's not as cool, even for Iphone. Iphone 4 is not as good as just... Iphone.

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zarx said:
andremop said:
eggs2see said:
andremop said:
Reach said:

Xbox 720 sounds really stupid... lol


In a certain way Playstation 4 is not that good also.

It's like movies, after the big 3 it looks not as cool. I don't think it'll be called that.


Heard of this little Apple device called the iPhone 4?  Electronics arn't like movies at all, they build on the name, the brand of "Playstation", if sony feels that name is still strong then they will keep the name, if they feel it's name has been damaged too much by the ps3 or they wish to take a different approch with there next console they will change it.


I don't think there was an Iphone 2, or even an Iphone 3, just 3G, meaning the tech behind it.

Anyway... to me it's not as cool, even for Iphone. Iphone 4 is not as good as just... Iphone.

How about PlayStation: Quarto or PlayStation: Dominator or PlayStation: Return of the King or PlayStation: Returns or PlayStation and the Goblet of Fire...

Playstation 4 - The Quest For Peace. Great name to end the fanboy wars!