Hi all. My First Post! Finally I've decided to sign up!

I can agree to some extent with CK about the Price drop of the new 80G model once the Limited edition stops.. however again as many have been saying, this is not set in concreat.

One thing I wanted to add however in regards to the 80GB pack...

Does Moterstorm really still cost $60??? Has it not/ will it not drop in price soon as it has sold so well??? (I'm not sure over there as I am from Australia).

However, Isn't Motorstorm developed by Sony? If it is, this is how I see the 80Gb working:

Motorstorm has already made back 100% development costs for Sony (Or who made it), so packaging it in with the 80gb version is costing them what??? $15? a cost of the blue ray disk? (however much that actually is).

The reason why bundles like this come in the first place is because the game has already made (Few acception made for new games), a profit and costs them nothing to bundle. (except for physical media costs).

If Sony introduces the 80gb at $600, the game only costs them the media ($15) and what the 20gb extra is probably cheaper then the 60gb anyway. So essentially adding the game is not costing Sony more money but increasing their profits. Hence why there could be a price drop but unlikely until at least nov.

I could see Sony easily NOT dropping the price of the 80gb for 2 main reasons:

1. They need to recoup the cost of dropping the 60gb by $100 (on top of their current losses) - Don't forget, Sony Shipped 5.5 million PS3 world wide by the end of 2006 (or was it fiascal year) - it's now been 3 - 6 months later and they still haven't sold through 4 mil. How many more units have they manufactured scince then that are currently sitting in the storehouses. Don't forget, if today it costs sony $600 to produce, last month it would have cost $630, and the month before $650 (Guestimating for example purpose only). They've already produced many more then 5.5 mil so they need to sell those 5.5 mill before cost reduction really comes into effect).

2. Companies increase or maintain high prices all the time. take a smaller retail item, say shampoo. there is a 500ml bottle, it costs $4 retail. Over time that product is reduced in size but maintains it's price:

490ml
480ml 3 months later
450ml another 3 months

and so on, suttle differences so it's not majorly notacible. then they bring out a 600ml bottle for $5 and have 2 modles on the market. a 400ml for $4 and a 600ml for $5.

Eventually the 400ml is fazed out and the process starts all over again...

600ml
590ml
580ml...

eventually it gets to 500ml but it's still $5. This is retail 101 when being a wholesaler. It's the best way to increase profits while at the same time not being obvouse to the consumer you are increasing your prices yet offering the same quantity, if not less then what you origionally offered.

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Now I know this is not shampoo but it's done all the time... new models of boats and cars for example.... suttle differences but major prices.

I CAN see Sony going back to and staying at the $599 price to try and recoup major current losses.

I CAN also see sony reducing the cost after the limited edition ends to $499.

We will not be 100% sure until it is announce or it happens. I for one can understand that the:

80gb with motorstorm at $599

less motorstorm:

$599 - $15 (Cost of motorstorm) = $584 and sell for $499 is not in their best interest.

ANyway, thanks for putting up with my first post!



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