Tober said:
That's all good @Maluigi, but current politics are obviously not working for a lot of people and the established politics are clearly not listening for a while now. Not just in Germany, but we see this trend in all of Europe.
But let's say the SPD would take a hard stance and acknowledges that mass immigration increasingly causes problems and decides to put a stop to it, especially from sub Sahara countries. And actually does something about it. There would be an alternative for those concerned about these issues to vote for.
Here in the Netherlands we saw population grow from 16million to 18million in just a couple of years. That's all immigration. The stresses that are put on all social and security systems are immense. Affordable housing practically unobtainable. Not all immigrants are the same. e.g. People that escaped the war from Ukraine adopt very well. People from sub Sahara Africa very badly.
People are fed up. Establishment politics just waving those concerns away are the problem here.
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Iam fron nederland to,so yea you understand.
Not all of them are bad noo waay my dad is a imigrant, and my step dad is turkish but many MANYY of them are.
Facts dont lie.
However its best i stay out of this topic/politics dont wanne get banned again.
Last edited by xl-klaudkil - on 08 September 2026
